HDHomeRun 4K is Nextgen TV Certified

[zippy]

I've read that statement in other forums. If so why doesn't A3SA pull/block the products authroization until a firmware patch is pushed out to the existing customers. And that patch also has a lot better A3SA certification the what happened orriginally. Other companies working on a DRM solution are losing potential cistomers.

[foxbat121]

It doesn't really matter much though (a single tuner STB). If you pay attention, no one has DVR certified for DRM yet. The earliest estimate published is sometime in Oct 2023. HDHomerun tuners have a lot in common with those DVR products. And has nothing in common with those single tuner STBs. Broadcasters with DRM tuned on are more scared of theft of original broadcast streams than the HDMI dump (i think they will fix the loop hole eventually).

[zippy]

Is the capture of live OTA via unencryptrd HDMI any different theft of original broadcast streams.

[MikeBear]

Is the capture of live OTA via unencryptrd HDMI any different theft of original broadcast streams.

It can hardly be defined as "theft" IF the manufacturer left the output wide open... For all we know, it's meant to be open there.

[zippy]

I'm sure the intent of the broadcaster turning on DRM was for an STB to proved user access/capture to the unencrypted programing. Makes sense to me. maybe that's what pearltv was talkinjg about when they indicated ATSC 3.0 would expand broadcasters business model.

[foxbat121]

Is the capture of live OTA via unencryptrd HDMI any different theft of original broadcast streams.

It is much higher bandwidth data stream that must be recompressed down in order to re-disttibute.

[zippy]

Are you trying to describe widevine L1, L2, and L3. I'll have to go back and re-view the youtube video and see if it indicates the capture was L3.

[foxbat121]

No, not at all. The video at HDMI is fully decoded and decompressed display data which is not the same thing as the broadcast transport stream which for ATSC 3.0 is H.265 compressed. A typical ATSC 3.0 station in my area has a bit rate of around 4 to 5 Mbps. An 1080p display stream from HDMI is around 10+ Gbps. The stations are worried about IPTV re-broadcasting.

[NedS]

SD, ya'll been saying "in a firmware update in the future..." are we talking Dec 2023, or Dec 2024?

When A3SA gets their act together. We've been waiting on them.

[rkkeller]

no one has DVR certified for DRM yet. The earliest estimate published is sometime in Oct 2023.

Unless I read the release notes wrong and I am looking at them now, they will have DRM to "view" the channels any time now. Only it will be Oct before you can record or play them.

[HoTst2]

SD, ya'll been saying "in a firmware update in the future..." are we talking Dec 2023, or Dec 2024?

When A3SA gets their act together. We've been waiting on them.

And which is what's so discouraging, as the specific holdup recently described by Nickk, is a problem with the A3SA's licensing servers that should be very easy for them to correct.

Yet after many months now, the A3SA still haven't done it.

It's like they don't want to or it's intentional to keep the gateway devices like the HDFX-4K disabled....

[nickk]

Update - progress is being made.

[HoTst2]

Update - progress is being made.

Oh, certainly good to hear ....

Any details you can share here without the risk of making a premature claim or divulging any confidential info.?

[MikeBear]

Update - progress is being made.

Oh, certainly good to hear ....

Any details you can share here without the risk of making a premature claim or divulging any confidential info.?

Sure, it's coming SOON! lol

[howardc1243]

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