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Cabal
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Re: Encryption

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techpro2004 wrote: Thu Feb 19, 2026 7:08 pm for another example of the failures of atsc3.0 drm check out this thread ...

It shows how atsc 3.0 drm is able to be bypassed using a3sa approved converter boxes.
I think it's well known at this point that existing converter boxes are not enforcing HDCP. Supposedly that requirement will be enforced in the future when things get even more locked down than they are today.

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If a network decided to do an encrypted channel that required people to buy a converter box to view, that is not considered broadcasting under FCC policy. There is no ambiguity.

If all 4 networks decide to encrypt their primary channels, informing TV manufacturers that they have to build the converter box into their TVs, does that make everything ok?

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Re: Encryption

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Samsung has decided to forgo ATSC 3.0 tuners in its OLED TVs for another year.

https://cordcuttersnews.com/samsung-aga ... -oled-tvs/

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Re: Encryption

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nickk wrote: Fri Feb 20, 2026 9:08 am If a network decided to do an encrypted channel that required people to buy a converter box to view, that is not considered broadcasting under FCC policy. There is no ambiguity.

If all 4 networks decide to encrypt their primary channels, informing TV manufacturers that they have to build the converter box into their TVs, does that make everything ok?
no nick the broadcasters would be in violation of fcc rules regarding the primary channel.

sub-channels maybe but not the primary.

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Re: Encryption

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nickk wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 11:08 am [\
I would not be surprised if at some point certain broadcasters will block all DVRs from recording their channels. I base this on the fact that certain broadcasters pushed so hard to block DVRs from recording ATSC 1.0 content. The "broadcast flag" meant to signal "do-not-record" was transmitted 24/7 by some stations back in the day.

I know this is real late---just catching up here getting a HDHR the other day (still have my cablecard version from another era). I doubt prevent DVR recording is going to fly. Supreme Court precedent clearly stated home recording for home use is "fair use" and can't be blocked. I have been following this ATSC 3.0 thing for years, going back to arguing with Tyler the Antennaman that it was really going to happen (he thought it would never get anywhere) because the broadcasters were behind it.
I have written FCC comments on this DRM garbage a couple times now during comment periods.
Appreciate SD fighting for this. It's the right thing. Airwaves are a public resource. Spectrum is a privilege unless you bought it and nobody bought OTA TV frequencies still in use. If broadcasters want to distribute premium content, there are much easier ways to do that such as that new invention, the internet. I'd love to see any data whatsoever on piracy of over-the-air tv content. Hope Brendan Carr reads this forum but I doubt it.
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Re: Encryption

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wlm12 wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 9:16 am They are killing OTA so it will all be streaming. Look at NBC with Peacock and CBS with Paramount +.
That's not going to help the actual broadcasters. On the contrary, that will cut them out completely. Although networks do own some stations, most are owned by the tv mafia of Nexstar, Tegna, Scripps, Sinclair, etc.

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