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vandyman
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In the end the local stations will lose out.

Years ago when I had a cable subscription.
I rarely ever watched local TV, except for some sports.

Streaming services are also killing local programming. Besides, there really isn't anything interesting to watch on local TV anyway. Reruns, reruns. Game shows, talk shows, are not for me.

Frank Hagan
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Post by Frank Hagan »

vandyman wrote: Tue Oct 28, 2025 8:28 am In the end the local stations will lose out.

Years ago when I had a cable subscription.
I rarely ever watched local TV, except for some sports.

Streaming services are also killing local programming. Besides, there really isn't anything interesting to watch on local TV anyway. Reruns, reruns. Game shows, talk shows, are not for me.
In big media markets, like Los Angeles, there's a ton of local news and what they used to call "human interest" stories ... restaurant reviews, upcoming festivals, high school events, etc. I'd hate to see all of that go away. I think we need to go back to requiring local stations to be locally owned and operated, and curtail the Sinclair-type media conglomerates.

NatHillIV
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Post by NatHillIV »

I think this is HUGE. I would love for some SiliconDust folks to respond to what happened yesterday,

https://www.newscaststudio.com/2025/10/ ... framework/

from the meeting............

“support and accelerate the nation’s ongoing voluntary market-based broadcast television transition to NextGen TV,” as described by FCC Secretary Marlene Dortch when introducing the meeting’s nine-item agenda.

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And there are additional thorny questions that the Commission is going to have to address.
Consumers are clearly concerned about the use of encryption technologies also referred to as digital rights
management. This impacts both whether audiences will be able to continue to enjoy free over the air
television as they do today and the impact of privately established standards on the equipment market.
Technology should not be a bottleneck to innovation

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments ... 5133A3.pdf

petelombardo
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Post by petelombardo »

Maybe the happy compromise solution is if the FCC requires a primary non-DRM encumbered "channel" from every major network. Then they can have their way with DRM on secondary channels and do what we all know will eventually happen if DRM remains a requirement, which is to monetize content in the same way they do with streaming (with non-skippable commercials - or paid subscriptions to bypass them). I don't think anyone would walk away from that feeling like a true winner. But at least a compromise like that would not guarantee the failure of broadcast TV, which seems to be the direction we're headed in at the moment.

theseer2
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Post by theseer2 »

No comprimises, ban the DRM, it does not belong on the our free airwaves. If you want to drm something, do it on the net and dont air it.

foxvalleyal
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zippy wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 10:08 am And there are additional thorny questions that the Commission is going to have to address.
Consumers are clearly concerned about the use of encryption technologies also referred to as digital rights
management. This impacts both whether audiences will be able to continue to enjoy free over the air
television as they do today and the impact of privately established standards on the equipment market.
Technology should not be a bottleneck to innovation

https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments ... 5133A3.pdf
Thanks for sharing this. I'd like to know where the data "Consumers have purchased over 14 million ATSC 3.0-capable sets and 300,000
external 3.0 converters that will allow them to receive NextGen TV signals" comes from in her statement. Yes we all have skin in the game here, consumers and manufacturers and we need a clear path without additional costs to both consumers and manufacturers. I'm glad she identified encryption as one of the bottlenecks in her statement. Time for all of us consumers to chime in again to the FCC with comments. I can clearly show them the 2 NextGen ATSC 3.0 Channels that I'm currently able to view and the 4 others that show the message Unable to play channel: The broadcaster has applied usage restrictions message I receive.

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Post by dlparker »

freway01 wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:47 pm
nickk wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:26 pm
EddieP wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:22 pm There is already a tuner box that has DRM recording in beta hope HDHR DVR will have it soon.
Recording DRM protected content isn't the problem (unless the broadcast chooses to block recording or to force-expire recordings which is a different issue)
Nickk, I think there are some people out there that don't have a good understanding of the difference in the rules the A3SA is putting on a 'standalone', single tuner box that requires a direct connection between the TV and receiver box (HDMI cable), and the A3SA rules for a 'networked' tuner box like the Flex. I've been following this thread since the beginning (including the closed portion), and in addition to what I've learned from you and others here, I've done additional research outside of this site.

Maybe it would be helpful if you created a pinned thread that only you and other SD team members can update that clearly spells out what the A3SA is requiring you and the team to provide in the hardware and software that will allow the Flex to get the A3SA's approval. This way as you complete a milestone, you can post about it so we all can see the progress that is being made.
That would also have great entertainment value for those of us who would like to watch the spectacle of the A3SA continually moving the goalposts.

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https://www.tvtechnology.com/news/silic ... -authority

Does this mean things are moving in the right direction? or not related to encryption at all?

Cabal
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Shots fired!

nickk
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The Certificate Authority isn't related to DRM encryption.

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Post by SpiceWare »

Something changed in Houston, my latest channel scan only has 2 stations locked down with DRM:
  • 111.1 KHOU CBS
  • 147.1 KTMD Telemundo
Previously 6 stations were locked down.
  • 111.1 KHOU CBS
  • 120.1 KTXH My Network TV
  • 126.1 KRIV Fox
  • 145.1 KXLN Univision
  • 147.1 KTMD Telemundo
  • 167.1 KFTH Unimás

bandit5731
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Post by bandit5731 »

Send in your comments to the fcc!
https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filings/standard

Proceeding(s): 16-142

I recommend watching both videos below to make sure we are sending in good comments. THX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkffd6XahDk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEf2Jot7ZQM

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