Phoenix Market, Channel Change

[sonnik]

Device ID 10A729A4

MeTV moved to their own Weigel station, KMEE UHF 32 PSIP 40 -

40.1 MeTV (Accurate, but shows are showing in the guide 1 hour early - I am seeing the next hour's shows as the current show in the guide).
40.2 MeTV+ Seems to be accurate
40.3 Story - Accurate
40.4 MeTV Toons - Missing program guide data altogether
40.5 WEST - Seems to be accurate.

On a different issue - KSAZ, UHF 10, PSIP 10 - 10.4 is Roar. This program guide never seems to match the actual programming at all.

[sonnik]

Update on 40.1 ... i seem to be seeing program listings for Central time zone.

Case in point, a two hour block of MASH starts at 5pm Arizona/Mountain Standard...

In my program guide, was shown to have started at 3pm (not the case)

40.4 iMeTV roons is still missing guide data.

[signcarver]

MeTV supposedly publishes it's listings as central/mountain rather than east/pacific so the time should match but AZ doesn't observe dst (for the most part) so that throws in another wrinkle but I think they get confused as it is central/pacific from what I can tell from feed as mst/pdt time is matching me tv schedule as Andy Griffin started at 7 in central and current pdt/mst while most of mountain is mdt right now just as central is cdt (i guess it is possible phoenix has its own feed to match current advertised mountain)

Currently at 7pm i am seeing:
40.1 (should be metv by watermark currently showing metv+ in guide and logo) Andy Griffin

40.2 (should be metv+ by watermark in stream currently showing up as toons in guide) new twilight zone- move listings from what was 40.1 but is off on time)

40.3 story (seems correct)

40.4 metv toons Tom and Jerry (i think, switched to another that could have been part of "and friends" it was an old mgm cartoon) listings are currently on 40.2 rather than 40.4

40.5 west Rawhide (seems correct)

With the switch 7.2 is now More! Arizona (listings seem correct but wrong logo/name... i will run channel scans on all after prime time to potentially update names on all).

[signcarver]

This morning 40.1/40.2 are showing metv/metv+ name/logo but 40.1 guide is off at 4am 2 episodes of dragnet aired... guide stated Toon in with me which i believe will actually start at 6. At 5am Adam 12 is on.

40.2 seems to be correct as vip is on... it is also two hour block so will have to wait to see (guide actually had same episode information for both at 4 and 5 which could be a problem... this actually may be a slice ui bug as the details of every subsequent program seems to reflect previous program even after restarting).

40.4 should be toons, not getting any guide

7.2 missing logo for More! Arizona but there may not be one available.

[jasonl]

40.1 switched to MeTV Pacific, 40.4 switched to MeTV Toons, but let me know if that is correct or off by 3 hours.

10.4 was using the local listing for the channel, which appears to be the Eastern feed of Roar. I switched it to Pacific, so please check and see if that looks better.

[sonnik]

40.1 switched to MeTV Pacific, 40.4 switched to MeTV Toons, but let me know if that is correct or off by 3 hours.

10.4 was using the local listing for the channel, which appears to be the Eastern feed of Roar. I switched it to Pacific, so please check and see if that looks better.

40.1 is now an hour late in its guide data. Is there a Mountain time available? (It had one when it was back on 7.2)

10.4 - waiting to see if good as it is in a multi hour block of Whose Line Is It Anyway? So I can't tell which hour is being shown.

40.4 - also not 100% sure as Tom and Jerry is on air and can't tell if its own show or part of a "Cartoon All Stars" block which features MGM stuff. It looks right, though even the Weigel site is showing the current time as 8pm (it's 7pm) ... I should know for sure in about 20 minutes

[sonnik]

Just confirmed 40.4 seems to be off by two hours.

The show in the HDHR program guide won't be on for another two hours.

since weigel is based in Chicacgo, I think their default listings are Central/Eastern. "8 / 7 central" kind of thing.

Thanks for doing rhis. It's a mess since AZ has its own time zone essentially. Hopefully they don't muck it up for us when the rest of the country "falls back" in a few week.

[sonnik]

10.4 is correct. Confirmed by watching guests on WLiiA? to what is on the roar web site, all showing the right times.

[signcarver]

40.1 is off an hour at 8:30 gomer pyle was on but guide stated Andy Griffin which was on an hour ago and says gomer is on at 9:30... I'm checking with my phone right now


Printed guide from metv also states gomer is on at 8:30 central/mountain but their live guide for what is on now in phoenix is also off... they may have a feed or local station delays to match that, curious what it is in denver and west coast (i can probably find that). Typically in summer we are an hour off from mountain feed times as we match pacific time though the typical exception is abc, cbs, fox, and nbc as they honor the local mountain time and be an hour later than denver and an hour earlier than pacific since prime time starts at 7 rather than 8 because of this kpho often seems fo start the shows a minute or two early. H&i used to publish an az printable guide but that was also off most of the year. In a month we may have to do it all over.

[jasonl]

OK, so Weigel is running on an Arizona delay just to be special. 40.1 I switched to use the listing from the parent station in Kingman which appears to be correct. The listings for the Kingman MeTV Toons match the ET/CT feed, as do the ones from Tucson, and there isn't an affiliate in Yuma, so I don't think that one can be fixed by us. I switched it to the one I know of that is PDT, but I'm guessing it will now be off an hour in the other direction. If one of you can confirm we'll see if we can get Weigel to let GN know about the changes.

[sonnik]

40.1 is good by my check here; MASH is currently aligning to the right episode in the guide, so I think we're all good there.

Is it possible to mirror 6.4 which should be MeTV Toons on KMEE-TV in Kingman?

PSIP 40 here in Phoenix is a LD repeater of everything on KMEE-TV originating from Kingman. So, everything should be a match there ...

6-1 = 40-1 (MeTV)
6-2 = 40-2 (MeTV+)
6-3 = 40-3 Story
6-4 = 40-4 (Toons)
6-5 = 40-5 WEST

Apologies, I'm sure if we conveyed the "repeater" aspect earlier it would have made things easier.

Will need to match a recognizable show on 40.4 before I can confirm.

[jasonl]

The listings for 6.4 match the ET/CT MeTV Toons feed.

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[sonnik]

40.4 is good now, many thanks!

[jasonl]

OK, so no Arizona delay on that one, just the Pacific feed. Good enough.

[sonnik]

40.1 is back to showing MeTV Eastern times.

Someone I know with DirecTV is reporting the same issue, so it seems like it's on the Weigel side. (If you are mirroring 6.1 from Kingman here, Weigel owns both KMEE-TV and KMEE-LD).