Hi, I have a legacy HDHR3-US, which does not fully work with the latest software and I want to upgrade so that I can use the latest SD software fully, including the DVR-Software. I, however, want to stick with an ATSC 1.0 tuner given all the ATSC 3.0 issues I've read about here and other places. I want to watch AND record OTA.
I am on a budget, so I was looking at picking up a used older box, so my question is: what is the oldest version that *does* work fully with the DVR software, is it the HDHR4-2US?
If buying used is not a worthwhile endeavor, what is the recommend box, the HDHomeRun FLEX DUO HDFX-2US?
Thanks for any advice!
Lou
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For ATSC 1.0, yep, HDHR4-2US: https://info.hdhomerun.com/info/dvr#hdh ... work_tuner
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For anyone else who happens across this thread, note that the CONNECT 4K/FLEX 4K models fully support ATSC 1.0 on all tuners, they just happen to also support ATSC 3.0 on 2 of them. Nothing is lost for 1.0 channels if you pick up a 3.0-capable model with an eye towards the future.
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I did not know this because they were advertised as 3.0 tuners, I thought that was all they were. Thanks for the info, much appreciated.jasonl wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:43 pm For anyone else who happens across this thread, note that the CONNECT 4K/FLEX 4K models fully support ATSC 1.0 on all tuners, they just happen to also support ATSC 3.0 on 2 of them. Nothing is lost for 1.0 channels if you pick up a 3.0-capable model with an eye towards the future.
I only just learned about the messed up situation with ATSC 3.0 and the DRM issue and not being able to record now and so on. I am hopeful it all gets sorted before the cutoff of ATSC 1.0, whenever that is. I read June 2027, but we'll have to see.
Lou
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There is no set date for an ATSC 1.0 cutoff. 2027 is just the next time they will reconvene with no decision made either way what will happen after that. But considering that there are no plans for a manufacturer mandate or plans to fund a coupon converter program, there's pretty much 0% of them reaching a high enough penetration that they will allow stations to drop their ATSC 1.0 simulcasts.
The 2027 end dates that many stations have in their NextGen filings is meaningless, most stations just put a date 4 or 5 years from their launch date because something had to be entered into the intend/estimate field in order for the form to be accepted. The more recent filings from FOX and some other broadcasters have more realistic estimates well into the 2030s.
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I have read this as well, several times. I know the corps. are pushing hard for this - ATSC 3.0 with DRM; we'll have to keep fending them off. I know its been a bee in their bonnet since the Betamax days.kyl416 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:15 pmThere is no set date for an ATSC 1.0 cutoff. 2027 is just the next time they will reconvene with no decision made either way what will happen after that. But considering that there are no plans for a manufacturer mandate or plans to fund a coupon converter program, there's pretty much 0% of them reaching a high enough penetration that they will allow stations to drop their ATSC 1.0 simulcasts.
The 2027 end dates that many stations have in their NextGen filings is meaningless, most stations just put a date 4 or 5 years from their launch date because something had to be entered into the intend/estimate field in order for the form to be accepted. The more recent filings from FOX and some other broadcasters have more realistic estimates well into the 2030s.
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If in a challenging reception location (multi-path) CONNECT 4K/FLEX 4K models better than prior generations.sirlou wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:09 pmI did not know this because they were advertised as 3.0 tuners, I thought that was all they were. Thanks for the info, much appreciated.jasonl wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:43 pm For anyone else who happens across this thread, note that the CONNECT 4K/FLEX 4K models fully support ATSC 1.0 on all tuners, they just happen to also support ATSC 3.0 on 2 of them. Nothing is lost for 1.0 channels if you pick up a 3.0-capable model with an eye towards the future.
I only just learned about the messed up situation with ATSC 3.0 and the DRM issue and not being able to record now and so on. I am hopeful it all gets sorted before the cutoff of ATSC 1.0, whenever that is. I read June 2027, but we'll have to see.
Lou
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Good to know, I just bought the HDHomeRun Connect HDHR4-2US which looks nearly identical to my HDHR3-US, but which can use the latest software.ckwsp101_tv wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:05 amIf in a challenging reception location (multi-path) CONNECT 4K/FLEX 4K models better than prior generations.sirlou wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:09 pmI did not know this because they were advertised as 3.0 tuners, I thought that was all they were. Thanks for the info, much appreciated.jasonl wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:43 pm For anyone else who happens across this thread, note that the CONNECT 4K/FLEX 4K models fully support ATSC 1.0 on all tuners, they just happen to also support ATSC 3.0 on 2 of them. Nothing is lost for 1.0 channels if you pick up a 3.0-capable model with an eye towards the future.
I only just learned about the messed up situation with ATSC 3.0 and the DRM issue and not being able to record now and so on. I am hopeful it all gets sorted before the cutoff of ATSC 1.0, whenever that is. I read June 2027, but we'll have to see.
Lou
I am in a large metro area near to the signal towers and have very good reception. If that changes I will consider the Flex models, thanks.
Lou