What's the difference between the Amazon issued HDHomeRun app and the Google Play version

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What's the difference between the Amazon issued HDHomeRun app and the Google Play version

Postby grumpygramp » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:50 pm

Which version is better to use on the 4K Fire Stick?
Side load the regular Android app (ver 20190206) or use the Amazon supplied app (ver 20180803)?

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Re: What's the difference between the Amazon issued HDHomeRun app and the Google Play version

Postby gtb » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:27 pm

Which version is better to use on the 4K Fire Stick?
Side load the regular Android app (ver 20190206) or use the Amazon supplied app (ver 20180803)?
Newer is always better, right? In theory SD submits the app to both the Google Play Store and the Amazon App Store about the same time. For reasons that perhaps only Jeff knows, sometimes Amazon has interesting delays in approval. Presuming nothing goes sideways (and occasionally something goes very sideways), Google Play Store approval has historically happened in a few hours (and then it can take a bit longer to pushed throughout the deployment ecosystem). Amazon has historically tended to take a few days for approval. The problem of such statistics is the tail of the curve is very long, and there is no known way to know if any particular submission will go into approval purgatory.

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Re: What's the difference between the Amazon issued HDHomeRun app and the Google Play version

Postby jasonl » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:02 pm

The Android app was submitted to Google so that the DRM update is available to those who need it. We're still working on fixing a few final bugs to get the app where we want it, so it has not yet been submitted to Amazon. No need to push out DRM updates for a platform that doesn't do DRM. Once we're happy with everything the app will be submitted to both, and Google will have it in a couple hours and Amazon in a couple days.

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Re: What's the difference between the Amazon issued HDHomeRun app and the Google Play version

Postby grumpygramp » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:19 pm

The Android app was submitted to Google so that the DRM update is available to those who need it. We're still working on fixing a few final bugs to get the app where we want it, so it has not yet been submitted to Amazon. No need to push out DRM updates for a platform that doesn't do DRM. Once we're happy with everything the app will be submitted to both, and Google will have it in a couple hours and Amazon in a couple days.
Thanks for the info.

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Re: What's the difference between the Amazon issued HDHomeRun app and the Google Play version

Postby gtb » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:07 am

The Android app was submitted to Google so that the DRM update is available to those who need it. We're still working on fixing a few final bugs to get the app where we want it, so it has not yet been submitted to Amazon. No need to push out DRM updates for a platform that doesn't do DRM.
So you are stating that the Amazon app was not impacted by the other changes that were documented for the Android platform update?

* Fix problem where seek could sometimes result in video stalling and/or playback stopping.
* Fix problem with some TV shows miss-detecting stereo.

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Re: What's the difference between the Amazon issued HDHomeRun app and the Google Play version

Postby nateb » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:28 pm

The Android app was submitted to Google so that the DRM update is available to those who need it. We're still working on fixing a few final bugs to get the app where we want it, so it has not yet been submitted to Amazon. No need to push out DRM updates for a platform that doesn't do DRM.
So you are stating that the Amazon app was not impacted by the other changes that were documented for the Android platform update?

* Fix problem where seek could sometimes result in video stalling and/or playback stopping.
* Fix problem with some TV shows miss-detecting stereo.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question. But Jason wasn't talking about need in terms of bug fixes. He was talking about need in the sense that DRM is about to stop working on Google Play without an app update, so we needed to push an app update immediately. Since Amazon doesn't do DRM, we're able to take our time and make sure all the bugs being fixed are actually fixed on that platform.

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Re: What's the difference between the Amazon issued HDHomeRun app and the Google Play version

Postby gtb » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:45 pm

The Android app was submitted to Google so that the DRM update is available to those who need it. We're still working on fixing a few final bugs to get the app where we want it, so it has not yet been submitted to Amazon. No need to push out DRM updates for a platform that doesn't do DRM.
So you are stating that the Amazon app was not impacted by the other changes that were documented for the Android platform update?

* Fix problem where seek could sometimes result in video stalling and/or playback stopping.
* Fix problem with some TV shows miss-detecting stereo.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question.
Yes, you are misunderstand the (implied) question, which was that jasonl stated that the reason that the update was not submitted for the Fire platform was because the platform does not do DRM. Do the referenced fixes apply to the Fire platform or not? You imply they might. And if they do, then SD made an explicit choice to not submit those fixes for that platform at the same time as (more pure) Android devices (and ignoring the reasons for that (I don't really care), the stated justification (DRM missing) is at best incomplete). If they do not apply to that platform, then the release notes should probably point out platform specific details.

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Re: What's the difference between the Amazon issued HDHomeRun app and the Google Play version

Postby jasonl » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:43 pm

The fix for video stalling is relevant to all previous releases. The stereo detection fix only applies vs. the January beta, as that feature was new in January. Since the focus of this release was getting updated DRM support out as soon as possible, the decision was made to skip testing and release for non-DRM platforms (i.e. Amazon) until known issues are resolved and time is available to perform testing on Amazon devices.

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Re: What's the difference between the Amazon issued HDHomeRun app and the Google Play version

Postby nateb » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:36 am

It doesn't look to me like I misunderstood the question.


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