Encryption

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homerbrew
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Re: Encryption

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DrSmith wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 2:46 pm Ah, maybe there is a warped logic here that I never considered before. Could they be thinking of a non-OTA future? Obviously impersonating an OTA station would be insanely wacked and stopped pretty quickly. Perhaps they are looking for a way to preserve all the station sovereignty even if the station "transmits" over the internet? They could use A3SA certification to somehow preserve locality? So I couldn't watch Boston stations if I was in Los Angeles? I dunno just trying to comprehend. Otherwise, yeah this is just strange, expensive, proprietary behavior by A3SA.
I do believe that is the broadcasters intent. They want make OTA so unbearably difficult, that it becomes useless. They assume you will go to cable/satellite/streaming to watch that station, where they extort that service to rebroadcast said station every few years. If they go that route, I will just boycott all local stations and they can pound sand. They will ultimately drive people to more piracy than ever.

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Re: Encryption

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FYI, I fully expect this post to get moderated, just trying to let sd know about it so they can use it as leverage against the a3sa


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jasonl
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Re: Encryption

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Yesterday, the FCC issued another Notice of Proposed Rulemaking regarding ATSC 3.0, available at https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments ... 5053A1.pdf. They asked for feedback on a ton of issues that have been raised by all sides, including a whole lot related to DRM and A3SA, which is extremely encouraging. Many of the people who previously filed comments were even quoted in the footnotes, which seems pretty cool to me. Lon Seidman posted a video summarizing it at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YmeEp_N6pY. We will be preparing our own comments to add to the proceedings, but we encourage everyone to review the document and file their own appropriate comments. I don't think there's any way this would have come out anywhere near what it is without the flood of feedback and the work that Lon and Tyler have done, so keep it up!

decaym
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Nice to see the FCC getting involved. I haven't written in to them since the AllVid fiasco, which would have worked well with the SiliconDust product line. My musing that time ran for about six pages, so I have my work cut out for me to fully collect my thoughts.

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There also needs to be clarity regarding the use the standards in ATSC 3 in terms of use by third party and open source software. As it stands now, one of the best known media managers (not sure if I should use their name here) can't show or record ATSC 3 streams, even without DRM, from my HDHomeRun. If the current situation stands, when ATSC 1 goes off the air my recording days will end.

jasonl
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Re: Encryption

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There is an open-source AC-4 decoder that is part of librempeg, which is a fork of ffmpeg. I'm assuming you're talking about Jellyfin. They could potentially integrate that decoder if they wished, they would just need to make sure to grab the version of it before the developer relicensed it. There haven't been any changes to the AC-4 part since the relicensing was done, at least.

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