Flex 4K duplicate recordings

[lenlab]

I record David Muir World News Tonight at 6:30 PM. Thats what I set up. How ever since it also comes on (Repeats) after midnight it gets recorded twice every day.

Is there a way to prevent this from happening either with the current software or with a HD Home software fix/option?

[jasonl]

It looks like you're recording it, watching it in between the original broadcast and the rerun, and deleting it. Are you choosing the Delete and don't re-record option when you delete it? The guide data looks like it has the 2:36am version correctly marked as a repeat.

[lenlab]

Thanks for the quick response.

So after I watch it and delete it I need to use the don't rerecord option in the delete box? Okay I will try that tonight.

That would work in this case but what about other shows that I record and are a series of 6 or 8 episodes that are shown in prime time and then another day in the AM. PBS typically does this with their shows repeating them on another day and time. I typically store these and watch at a later date. I guess having duplicates is not something that can be stopped in the process of setting up a recording?

2 other DVR brands that shall go unnamed (that I have and use) control this by calling the first showing as "New" in the guide (or if not in the guide they know it is new) and the second is not "New" and not recorded since you indicate you only want to record "New" of that particular show when setting up the recording options.

[signcarver]

You would need to give exact examples (show, times and stations). PBS often has things marked as "new" when they previously aired (particularly between the different pbs stations but can also be a different sub channel of same station). When marked as "new" all logic to prevent recording a duplicate stops since you can't possibly have it yet as it is "new"... this actually works better than most systems if for some reason there was a scheduling change that may have delayed an episode, safer to record than not and miss a recording. Occasionally specifying a particular channel for the rule can help.

What I would first check is the recording metadata... get the recorded_files.json from the engine, then get the episodes for that show and check what is different between duplicates or if marked as a FirstAiring.

[lenlab]

The other DVR I have the program guide shows World News Tonight as "NEW" at 6:30 PM and does not show it as "NEW" when it airs again at 2 AM or so.

Another example is PBS show the series "Patience". It airs as "New" on Sunday 7/20 at 8 PM and again as not new Monday 7/21 at 12:20 AM. So when I set up the recording to watch it in a week or so only the "New" 8 PM broadcasts are recorded. I don't have duplicates.

The other DVR I have the guide does not show "new" however when you set up the recordings one of the options is to record only new.

[signcarver]

which station/market?

In my market, gracenote (guide data provider) lists Patience as new at both 7 and 1, which is often how pbs lists things so I expect it is the same in your market... for world news tonight, my market doesn't have an additional showing as we have 2 showings of the local news and Tamron Hall stuck in between those showings and after that is World News Now (local news, tamron, local news, world news now) so I can't see how they mark such for your area without knowing it (but know that news and dailies, often get marked as "New" as the episode information may state the original airdate as 30 years ago when it first started to air as they don't really have episodes, but they are supposed to not do such for rebroadcasts but often their logic for such is usually based on the same day which switches at midnight so they don't properly switch such flag off (years ago they temporarily had it that such would record in the AM but then not in the evening as the original airing in the evening would be marked as the repeat of the overnight showing and that caused more problems with consumers using products that used their data) and SNL is often also marked as new as that is what the network tells gracenote to do even when not new).

[lenlab]

I'm in the NYC market and the station is PBS 13.1 or 113.1. My other DVR (begins with a "T") guide correctly shows "New" for the prime time broadcast and not new for the second showing later.

The other DVR guide does not show "new" but it will ask you if you want only new and it will only record the first show and not the second occurrence.

[jasonl]

Thanks for the quick response.

So after I watch it and delete it I need to use the don't rerecord option in the delete box? Okay I will try that tonight.

That would work in this case but what about other shows that I record and are a series of 6 or 8 episodes that are shown in prime time and then another day in the AM. PBS typically does this with their shows repeating them on another day and time. I typically store these and watch at a later date. I guess having duplicates is not something that can be stopped in the process of setting up a recording?

2 other DVR brands that shall go unnamed (that I have and use) control this by calling the first showing as "New" in the guide (or if not in the guide they know it is new) and the second is not "New" and not recorded since you indicate you only want to record "New" of that particular show when setting up the recording options.

Deleting with don't re-record or having the recording on the DVR are the things that tell it not to record repeats. Only recording if something is flagged as "new" is a poor system because the new flags are not always inconsistent, especially if an episode has to be rescheduled, and it means that if the original airing doesn't record for some reason (broadcast outage, all tuners in use, power outage, etc.), then you just don't get the recording at all. The design of the HDHomeRun DVR is that it will record the first airing if it can, record a repeat if it can't get the first, and not record repeats if they aren't needed.