When will DRM recording be available???

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Re: When will DRM recording be available???

Post by gtb » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:26 pm

jboymichelstein wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:41 am
Not sure how you got that impression.
Because you included both references. If the first was not relevant, why include it?

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Re: When will DRM recording be available???

Post by rrussis82 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:31 pm

SD has mentioned in the past, that DRM recording will be release at the time of the Prime 6. So with that said, I would say before January 1 2020

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Re: When will DRM recording be available???

Post by jboymichelstein » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:51 pm

gtb wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:26 pm
jboymichelstein wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:41 am
Not sure how you got that impression.
Because you included both references. If the first was not relevant, why include it?
I stated a fact and then a longing.

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Re: When will DRM recording be available???

Post by gtb » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:19 pm

jboymichelstein wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:51 pm
I stated a fact and then a longing.
Thanks for confirming the statements were not related, and the first statement was at best irrelevant and should never have been written.

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Re: When will DRM recording be available???

Post by jboymichelstein » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:58 pm

Facts do matter!

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Re: When will DRM recording be available???

Post by barnabas1969 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:49 pm

mcewinter wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:31 am
MinistryOfMagic wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:30 pm
One thing I learned from SiliconDust is you don't talk about DRM, competing products or how you really feel about their products. I tried to offer my own opinions about their DVR and it was removed due to Forum Rules.
I'm guilty. see above.

Let me see if I can say this:

It has been said that DRM capabilities will be released in tandem with the Prime 6. 8-)
Oh, yeah... that "[removed by moderator]" thing, right?

We are on a site that is controlled by the manufacturer of the hardware/software, so "god" forbids us from criticizing "him".

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Re: When will DRM recording be available???

Post by barnabas1969 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:53 pm

mike808 wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:24 pm
OP,
I am a kickstarter backer too. How many years have you received free DVR guide service from SD? From my perspective, well worth the kickstarter.
I have not received one iota of guide data from Silicondust. I am still using Windows 7 Media Center, so my guide data (flawed as it is) comes completely free-of-charge from Microsoft.

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Re: When will DRM recording be available???

Post by GGRussell » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:01 pm

barnabas1969 wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:53 pm
I have not received one iota of guide data from Silicondust. I am still using Windows 7 Media Center, so my guide data (flawed as it is) comes completely free-of-charge from Microsoft.
Jan 2020 is end of life for Windows 7 and I wouldn't be surprised if WMC guide data ends too. That data is not FREE for Microsoft.

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Re: When will DRM recording be available???

Post by barnabas1969 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:02 pm

mike808 wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:24 pm
Basically, SD's hands are tied, legally, by the cable industry. The cable cabal is loath to certify any more cablecard devices that aren't cable operators themselves. The only reason they approved SD's original Prime devices was merely to prove to the government that legally, they weren't really a monopoly industry syndicate engaged in price-fixing and market manipulation. I want SD to stick around and keep making great devices. So I appreciate them not getting sued into oblivion and not cutting corners on DRM.
Are you serious? Yes, there has been tremendous resistance from the cable companies against CableCARD... but the FCC basically FORCED the cable companies to support CableCARD quite a few years ago.

Your post is nonsense.

Some of this progress has been reversed under the "leadership" of Ajit Pai since Trump became POTUS, but certification of new CableCARD devices have not been hindered. SD's HDHomeRun PRIME devices were certified LONG before Trump became POTUS. Nothing about CableCARD has changed since Trump became POTUS.

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Re: When will DRM recording be available???

Post by barnabas1969 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:05 pm

GGRussell wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:01 pm
barnabas1969 wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:53 pm
I have not received one iota of guide data from Silicondust. I am still using Windows 7 Media Center, so my guide data (flawed as it is) comes completely free-of-charge from Microsoft.
Jan 2020 is end of life for Windows 7 and I wouldn't be surprised if WMC guide data ends too. That data is not FREE for Microsoft.
While the data is not free for Microsoft, it is currently free for ME... and there are ways for me to get my guide data from other sources (for which I must pay a few dollars per year) while still using Windows 7 Media Center.

Currently, I cannot watch DRM recordings in Media Center that are encoded in H.264.

The whole point of this thread is... WHEN WILL SILICONDUST PROVIDE THE ABILITY TO RECORD DRM SHOWS?

If you don't have an answer to that question, then please refrain from posting a response.

Thank you.
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Re: When will DRM recording be available???

Post by barnabas1969 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:21 pm

rrussis82 wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:31 pm
SD has mentioned in the past, that DRM recording will be release at the time of the Prime 6. So with that said, I would say before January 1 2020
If this is true, then PLEASE BRING OUT THE PRIME-6 ASAP!!!

Even if I need to throw away my old 3-tuner primes and buy a new 6-tuner prime... sign me up!

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What's the holdup????

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Re: When will DRM recording be available???

Post by barnabas1969 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:32 pm

barnabas1969 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:43 pm
I know all about the driver issue. The issue was that certain video drivers couldn't handle H.264 at all... even on non-DRM content. As it turned out, nobody could play DRM H.264 in Media Center, no matter what drivers they were using.

Does anyone have any info about when HDHR DVR will record DRM channels?
I actually have some non-DRM, h.264 recordings that were shared from the old Green Button website. They play fine on my hardware.

It is ONLY DRM H.264 content that will not play on ANY hardware/driver combination in Windows 7 Media Center.

It doesn't matter what hardware/driver combination you have in Windows 7 Media Center... ***NO*** H.264 recordings will play if they are DRM.

Period.

Now, back to my original question....

When will Silicondust DVR **RECORD** DRM content?

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Re: When will DRM recording be available???

Post by signcarver » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:43 pm

barnabas1969 wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:32 pm
It doesn't matter what hardware/driver combination you have in Windows 7 Media Center... ***NO*** H.264 recordings will play if they are DRM.

Period.

Now, back to my original question....

When will Silicondust DVR **RECORD** DRM content?
As stated, DRM recording is expected by the end of the year... NO FURTHER INFORMATION WILL BE GIVEN UNTIL IT IS OUT !!!!! (other than perhaps information of further delays if that goal isn't met but don't expect such status update until 1/1/2020 unless it comes out).

I have no problem with DRM protected H264 from my provider with WMC with the PC that recorded it, or xbox 360/ceton echo extenders connected to that pc.


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Re: When will DRM recording be available???

Post by barnabas1969 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:52 pm

signcarver wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:43 pm
I have no problem with DRM protected H264 from my provider with WMC with the PC that recorded it, or xbox 360/ceton echo extenders connected to that pc.
Very interesting. I have three H.264 recordings (non-DRM) that play fine on my PC, and all of my XBOX-360 extenders.

None of my DRM (copy-protected) recordings that are encoded with H.264 will play on any of them.

If you read the forums at thegreenbutton.tv, you will find that nobody was able to play copy-protected (DRM) H.264 files on ANY hardware.

If yours work, please show proof...

1) The file is encoded as H.264
2) It is DRM protected
3) show video proof that they actually play on your hardware.

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