4k and Roku support

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4k and Roku support

Post by spencer777 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:16 pm

According to Best Buy (Scribe)
Doesn't sound right



4K Ultra HD compatible
Record content at high resolution to save clear picture with maximum details.

Over-the-air DVR
Capture content from HD antenna programming (the HD antenna is sold separately).

Watch up to two live TV shows on different devices
Supports a wide range of smart devices, including Amazon Fire TV, NVIDIA Shield, iOS, Apple, iPhone, iPad, Windows 10, Roku 9.0+, PlayStation, Android, Xbox and more.

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Re: 4k and Roku support

Post by rpcameron » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:07 pm

Well, technically there is nothing wrong with the statement. I don't know of any 4K OTA broadcasts, but if it's broadcast, then it can be recorded. With regard to the Roku support, perhaps the device advertises itself over DLNA and Roku can play the content in that manner.

While misleading, there is nothing intrinsically "wrong" or "false" about the statement.

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Re: 4k and Roku support

Post by spencer777 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:36 pm

rpcameron wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:07 pm
Well, technically there is nothing wrong with the statement. I don't know of any 4K OTA broadcasts, but if it's broadcast, then it can be recorded. With regard to the Roku support, perhaps the device advertises itself over DLNA and Roku can play the content in that manner.

While misleading, there is nothing intrinsically "wrong" or "false" about the statement.
Don't you need an Atsc 3.0 tuner for 4k

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Re: 4k and Roku support

Post by Keenan » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:50 pm

spencer777 wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:36 pm
rpcameron wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:07 pm
Well, technically there is nothing wrong with the statement. I don't know of any 4K OTA broadcasts, but if it's broadcast, then it can be recorded. With regard to the Roku support, perhaps the device advertises itself over DLNA and Roku can play the content in that manner.

While misleading, there is nothing intrinsically "wrong" or "false" about the statement.
Don't you need an Atsc 3.0 tuner for 4k
Yes

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Re: 4k and Roku support

Post by jasonl » Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:13 pm

Verizon Fios has added two 4K channels to carry Fox 4K broadcasts, including the Women's World Cup matches starting on Friday. Those should be available to be recorded, at least based on the first one having worked for the initial NASCAR broadcast last month.

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Re: 4k and Roku support

Post by spencer777 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:26 pm

jasonl wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:13 pm
Verizon Fios has added two 4K channels to carry Fox 4K broadcasts, including the Women's World Cup matches starting on Friday. Those should be available to be recorded, at least based on the first one having worked for the initial NASCAR broadcast last month.
How will that work with the Service or Scribe?

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Re: 4k and Roku support

Post by rpcameron » Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:45 pm

spencer777 wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:26 pm
jasonl wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:13 pm
Verizon Fios has added two 4K channels to carry Fox 4K broadcasts, including the Women's World Cup matches starting on Friday. Those should be available to be recorded, at least based on the first one having worked for the initial NASCAR broadcast last month.
How will that work with the Service or Scribe?
Well, since either can be used as the recording engine for other HDHR tuners on your network, they will work with the 4K content from your Prime. So again, utterly misleading, but still technically accurate.

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Re: 4k and Roku support

Post by spencer777 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:58 pm

rpcameron wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:45 pm
spencer777 wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:26 pm
jasonl wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:13 pm
Verizon Fios has added two 4K channels to carry Fox 4K broadcasts, including the Women's World Cup matches starting on Friday. Those should be available to be recorded, at least based on the first one having worked for the initial NASCAR broadcast last month.
How will that work with the Service or Scribe?
Well, since either can be used as the recording engine for other HDHR tuners on your network, they will work with the 4K content from your Prime. So again, utterly misleading, but still technically accurate.
They are both OTA

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Re: 4k and Roku support

Post by jasonl » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:23 pm

spencer777 wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:58 pm
They are both OTA
Scribe has OTA tuners built in, but it can also record from other HDHomeRun devices on the network, including HDHomeRun PRIME. Servio has no tuners and only records from other HDHomeRun devices on the network.

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Re: 4k and Roku support

Post by spencer777 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:38 pm

jasonl wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:23 pm
spencer777 wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:58 pm
They are both OTA
Scribe has OTA tuners built in, but it can also record from other HDHomeRun devices on the network, including HDHomeRun PRIME. Servio has no tuners and only records from other HDHomeRun devices on the network.
very misleading on the Bestbuy website, for both listings

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Re: 4k and Roku support

Post by Keenan » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:39 pm

What 4K content can you receive on a Prime?

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Re: 4k and Roku support

Post by gtb » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:17 pm

Keenan wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:39 pm
What 4K content can you receive on a Prime?
(Verizon) FiOS(*), and a few occasional "stunts" on other providers.

Realistically, 4K on most "cable" systems will be mostly IPTV(**) due to the bandwidth realities. There are good tangents to go down here, but I will defer because it is not relevant to the SD HDHR3-CC or HDHR5-6CC.



(*) FiOS is a brand, and Verizon licensed the name to Frontier during the dissemblance. Frontier has a different set of challenges (I could go on, but will not).

(**) FiOS, more than many(***) has bandwidth to burn, but even they are going to limit "4k" to select exceptions(****).

(***) Some live in fiber deep N+0 1GHz+ plants (I do), but most do not, so there is simply no bandwidth available.

(****) (Verizon) FiOS had deployed pure IPTV devices to a select few with the (stated) intention that that was the future. They pulled them all back (literally pulling boxes out of consumers residences). So they have moved back to (some) limited 4K via linear QAM.

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Re: 4k and Roku support

Post by rpcameron » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:20 pm

Keenan wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:39 pm
What 4K content can you receive on a Prime?
It was already mentioned in the thread, but on FiOS some Fox sports channels occasionally have a 4K broadcast. Other cable companies may likewise offer 4K broadcasts, but it is up to them how they choose to do so. (I imagine they'd use H.265/HEVC since that is what ATSC 3.0 has for 4K OTA broadcasts, but they can use whatever codecs they like.)

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Re: 4k and Roku support

Post by jasonl » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:15 pm

Verizon is supposed to be carrying all 52 games of the Women's World Cup in 4K, so at least they're moving a bit beyond the stunt stage. Optimum is supposed to have most of them , but they only have one 4K channel so they'll have to miss some of the games when 2 are on at the same time. I don't know if Optimum is using IP or QAM, and I don't know if they're DRM protected. If any Optimum subscribers want to check channel 200 at 3pm on Friday and let us know what happens...

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Re: 4k and Roku support

Post by Ken.F » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:09 am

jasonl wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:13 pm
Verizon Fios has added two 4K channels to carry Fox 4K broadcasts, including the Women's World Cup matches starting on Friday. Those should be available to be recorded, at least based on the first one having worked for the initial NASCAR broadcast last month.
According to a Verizon Support tweet yesterday the 4k channels are supposed to be 1498 and 1499.
https://twitter.com/VerizonSupport/stat ... 72416?s=20

I checked the lineup on my Primes last night with show=all. 1498 was crossed out and 1499 wasn't even listed. I ran a channel scan this morning and now it shows that I am subscribed to 1498 but 1499 is still not listed.

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