Recording and Playing back 3.0?

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Recording and Playing back 3.0?

Post by xmguy »

How can I record and playback ATSC 3.0 channels? I have Plex, but I can’t decode the audio, even if I direct play it from my PC to my Apple TV. If I buy the yearly DVR option for the HR app directly will it work? If not, does anyone know an app that does work with the AC-4 codec for record/playback to Apple TV/iPhone/iPad?

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Try getchannels.com

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The HDHomeRun DVR and apps support record and playback of ATSC 3.0 content on Apple TV 4K devices and iPhone/iPad devices 2018 and newer.

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nickk wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:04 am The HDHomeRun DVR and apps support record and playback of ATSC 3.0 content on Apple TV 4K devices and iPhone/iPad devices 2018 and newer.

Nick
Hi Nick, a quick question.

I tried to record both the ATSC 1.0 and 3.0 streams for a particular show using my PC and the Windows Store HD Homerun software (I have a laptop with a 4K screen) but when I try to select record all episodes, I only get the option for ATSC 1.0 recording although both are listed.

Is that a limitation of the Windows software?

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Post by signcarver »

"All" only means "one" (of any given episode). However you can force it to a specific channel. It has been awhile since I checked but it used to be the engine would only record one of the same episode when starting at the same time even when recording oneoffs which would usually force another copy of an episode to be recorded even if you already had a copy.

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Being able to record multiple versions is something that is still being evaluated. From what I understand, even with a single ATSC 3.0 program listing, it's possible to have more than one "version" available, so it's definitely on the list to look at and plan for.

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NedS wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:35 pm Being able to record multiple versions is something that is still being evaluated. From what I understand, even with a single ATSC 3.0 program listing, it's possible to have more than one "version" available, so it's definitely on the list to look at and plan for.
Does this mean perhaps being a lower quality version of a HD signal? I was under the assumption that what I saw is what is there. The modulation schemes, the layering, etc. What it shows, is what it is.

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xmguy wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:16 pm
NedS wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:35 pm Being able to record multiple versions is something that is still being evaluated. From what I understand, even with a single ATSC 3.0 program listing, it's possible to have more than one "version" available, so it's definitely on the list to look at and plan for.
Does this mean perhaps being a lower quality version of a HD signal? I was under the assumption that what I saw is what is there. The modulation schemes, the layering, etc. What it shows, is what it is.
The ATSC 3.0 spec allows a whole bunch of options that, as of today, have not been used in the wild. Currently, the HDHomeRun software will always attempt to access the highest quality version of a channel that it has available.

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SageTV may be able to record content from the Quad.

FYI - SageTV is PC based DVR software that has been around for a long time. SageTV was bought by Google, but then it was Open Sourced about 5 years ago. IMO it is still very good for recording and it has pretty much always supported earlier HDHR tuners.

https://forums.sagetv.com/forums/index.php

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nickk wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:04 am The HDHomeRun DVR and apps support record and playback of ATSC 3.0 content on Apple TV 4K devices and iPhone/iPad devices 2018 and newer.

Nick
Is this the exhaustive list of clients? Using the HDHR app on my Fire TV stick I can live watch an ATSC 3.0 station with sound from my 4K. (This also works with the HDHR app on Windows after installing the HEVC drivers for 99 cents from the Windows store, and on my iPad and iPhone with both the HDHR app and also the Channels app). If I purchase the HDHR DVR capability, will it be able to record and playback ATSC 3.0 with sound on the same devices -- in particular, the Fire TV stick? In other words, does successfully watching an ATSC 3.0 channel live imply that recording it and playing it back will work?

I am hoping to record from Baltimore's WNUV after it starts 3.0 broadcasting -- hopefully soon.

Thanks!

Bill

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twobucktoll wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:54 pm
nickk wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:04 am The HDHomeRun DVR and apps support record and playback of ATSC 3.0 content on Apple TV 4K devices and iPhone/iPad devices 2018 and newer.

Nick
Is this the exhaustive list of clients? Using the HDHR app on my Fire TV stick I can live watch an ATSC 3.0 station with sound from my 4K. (This also works with the HDHR app on Windows after installing the HEVC drivers for 99 cents from the Windows store, and on my iPad and iPhone with both the HDHR app and also the Channels app). If I purchase the HDHR DVR capability, will it be able to record and playback ATSC 3.0 with sound on the same devices -- in particular, the Fire TV stick? In other words, does successfully watching an ATSC 3.0 channel live imply that recording it and playing it back will work?

I am hoping to record from Baltimore's WNUV after it starts 3.0 broadcasting -- hopefully soon.

Thanks!

Bill
Devices that are licensed for ATMOS (or specifically for AC-4) should work. The Fire TV stick 4K works, as should any other Fire TV device that advertises ATMOS support. If you can watch live TV and hear ATSC 3.0 audio, then it will also work with recordings.

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I live in Norfolk, VA market that has ATSC 3.0 signals. I am using right now a Windows7 WMC as DVR, nVidia GT1030, using my CONNECT Quatro.
I have a 4K LG TV (HDR), and an LG Atmos soundbar connected to the Windows machine. The guide provider is epg123 (Schedules Direct).

If I buy the HDHomeRun HDHR5-4K Connect 4K, is there a chance to record/play (DVR) the ATSC 3.0 OTA programs in 4k?

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Windows Media Center will not work with ATSC 3.0 since it uses the HDHomeRun in BDA mode to physically tune to channels, and Media Center development was halted long before ATSC 3.0 was a thing. There's also the whole AC-4 audio issue and right now there are no DirectShow or Windows Media Foundation AC-4 codecs for Windows 7.

Also, no one is broadcasting in 4K, they have to share the ATSC 3.0 signal for at least 5 years, so there's not enough bandwidth for 4K when they are carrying 4-6 HD channels.

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kyl416 wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 4:30 pm There's also the whole AC-4 audio issue and right now there are no DirectShow or Windows Media Foundation AC-4 codecs for Windows 7.
For me that would be solved by sending the digital audio via HDMI ARC to my sound bar that has ATMOS (LG SN7R 5.1.2)?
I guess I'll bite and buy the HDHomeRun HDHR5-4K Connect 4K anyway... see later what options I have for DVR.
nickk wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:04 am The HDHomeRun DVR and apps support record and playback of ATSC 3.0 content on Apple TV 4K devices and iPhone/iPad devices 2018 and newer.
Nick
Any chance that other devices will record and playback? Will my LG SN7R 5.1.2 be sufficient to play the audio?
I really hate Apple...

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SoNic67 wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:51 pm Any chance that other devices will record and playback? Will my LG SN7R 5.1.2 be sufficient to play the audio?
I really hate Apple...
For TV connected devices:

Any certified "Android TV" ( https://www.android.com/tv/ ) or Fire TV device that advertises support for ATMOS audio should be a fairly safe bet. The 2020 "Chromecast with Google TV" should work very well, as does the Fire TV stick 4K (just don't get the "lite" model of Fire TV stick).

The Xbox One/Series consoles will also work, and actually make pretty nice media boxes even if you're not into gaming (but are probably overkill for just media).

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