ATSC 3.0: Phoenix - Jan 2021

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nickk wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:14 pm
bobchase wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:48 pm Channel 27 is problematic for some TV's as well as HDHR. It has to do with how they fill out the tables within the two PLP's.
Channel 27 isn't problematic for the HDHomeRun - the PLP configuration is unusual but supported.
I stand corrected!!

On another note, could you tell me what you see wrong with the 33.1 encoder that is up now? I'd love to give them some feedback.

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signcarver wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:49 pm By the way, I loved the test channels on 35 last week as I actually had subtitles available on some other platforms.
The encoder up on 35.11 probably has the CC dialed in the best in my stable of encoders. Other encoder brands are still a work-in-progress

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bobchase wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:00 pm
nickk wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:14 pm
bobchase wrote: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:48 pm Channel 27 is problematic for some TV's as well as HDHR. It has to do with how they fill out the tables within the two PLP's.
Channel 27 isn't problematic for the HDHomeRun - the PLP configuration is unusual but supported.
I stand corrected!!

On another note, could you tell me what you see wrong with the 33.1 encoder that is up now? I'd love to give them some feedback.
I get all of the 100 series channels except for 133.1. 133.1 takes a little longer to start vs. the rest and then I get maybe 2 or 3 video frames about 1 to 2 seconds of audio and it freezes.
This is running the HdHomeRun app on a windows 10 machine.

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I get the same on 133.1 long time to start and 2-5 seconds of skipped frames then freeze (in chandler area)

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It's not a HDHR problem per se. It's most likely a problem with the encoder and I was hoping that Nick could address that - either here or in a PM so that I could get back to the encoder manufacturer.

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I haven’t had a chance to play with this again until today and the channels on 27 had already been found. I was able to view and hear 110,115,145 and 161. Signal was 100/99/100.

I have noticed some channels in the 5000 range labeled unknown that come and go, what are those?

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5000 channel numbers are usually weak signals that were detected but didn't have the psip data with nane and channel (either too week to get it or not set by station). Often they can be ignored. A couple weeks ago one of them for me mistakenly had the same virtual channel number as a more powerful station when I examined the station (something like it was 41.1 when it should have been 42.1... neither station was I familiar with and I don't have the numbers in front of me)... that actually has been a feature I've long requested to always add all sources but I am not aware it has really been implemented.

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5000 seems to be some test for KVPA 41.2 there are graphics, and music on 5000.

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Today receiving 105.1, 108.4, 110.1, 112.1, 115.1, 135.1, 145.1, 161.1 Using HdHomeRun app on windows 10.

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Today receiving 110.1, 115.1, 135.1, 145.1, 161.1 Using HdHomeRun app on windows 10. Wondering if the AT&T 5G they just put on a lamp post 1 Block from my house is the problem.

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Bluehawk wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:01 pm Today receiving 110.1, 115.1, 135.1, 145.1, 161.1 Using HdHomeRun app on windows 10. Wondering if the AT&T 5G they just put on a lamp post 1 Block from my house is the problem.
Nope, the only stream on 35 that you can see is 35.1, the rest of the streams are invisible.

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Thanks BobChase Great to have you in this Forum.

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Bluehawk wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:41 am Thanks BobChase Great to have you in this Forum.
Your welcome. Changed the lineup this morning for this weeks testing but the only visible "add" is 35.11. Same programing as 35.1 but on a different brand of encoder. The other three streams are invisible. The week after (10th) we will be back to the full boat. However, we plan on doing some drive-arounds that week testing ch27's SFN, so viewing will be impacted over there from time-to-time. I'll try to our the 6 viewers know when that happens... :D

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We are back to a somewhat normal lineup on 35. The Univision App is taking up 2 Mbps of the available data rate, so AZPBS isn't there right now.

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bobchase wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:13 am We are back to a somewhat normal lineup on 35. The Univision App is taking up 2 Mbps of the available data rate, so AZPBS isn't there right now.
I'm in the Seattle market but we also have the app data being broadcast on our Univision channel. Are you aware of how it is supposed to/will work? Is the idea the player app should trigger the other Sinclair apps on the TV/Device or is it an overlay app that gets data from the internet but doesn't call to other device apps?
I don't imagine I want it or most any of the future apps having internet connectivity but I'm still curious as to how it is supposed to work as I've not seen any specifics about the model.

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