Windows 7 x64

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sgarfinkle
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Windows 7 x64

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I realize that Win7 is out of support by Microsoft; but, after trying many alternatives on Windows 10, I went back to using Windows 7 x64 with Microsoft Media Center. So anyway, have you tried/will you try the new ATSC 3.0 board on Win7 x64?

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Re: Windows 7 x64

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I think win 7 might be covered under '3rd Party Comp..', but it would be nice to here if it works with MCE.

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As long as your Windows 7 system has a DirectShow HEVC codec installed the HDHomeRun app for Windows 7/8 should play content. WMC won't work.

Will test here.

Nick

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+1 for WMC support please... =)

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Re: Windows 7 x64

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@nickk - Thanks. I'll definitely be interested in the results, though I have to admit it's kind of unlikely I will bother with this if I can't use WMC.

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I have a very old Windows 7 machine that ran Beyond TV, then WMC and now Plex. If this doesn't support Windows 7 that'll force me to move to Windows 10. :D

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Considering that Win7 is now past Microsoft's End-of-Life support, you are running a huge risk running Win7 from now forward.

For example, there will not be any more security patches for Win7, even high vulnerability patches that expose your PC to attacks.

If you haven't tried running Plex on a Win10 PC, I highly recommend it - It's 10x better than MMC in almost every way.

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AzJazz wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:45 pm
Considering that Win7 is now past Microsoft's End-of-Life support, you are running a huge risk running Win7 from now forward.

For example, there will not be any more security patches for Win7, even high vulnerability patches that expose your PC to attacks.
I'd say "huge risk" is an overstatement. Most people running WMC are doing so as a dedicated HTPC behind a firewall. The risk with such a machine is minimal.

And I'm guessing if there's any really dangerous exploit, we might see a special patch from Microsoft just like they did for XP after its end-of-life.

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tonywagner wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:18 pm
AzJazz wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:45 pm
Considering that Win7 is now past Microsoft's End-of-Life support, you are running a huge risk running Win7 from now forward.

For example, there will not be any more security patches for Win7, even high vulnerability patches that expose your PC to attacks.
I'd say "huge risk" is an overstatement. Most people running WMC are doing so as a dedicated HTPC behind a firewall. The risk with such a machine is minimal.

And I'm guessing if there's any really dangerous exploit, we might see a special patch from Microsoft just like they did for XP after its end-of-life.
Considering Microsoft's history of remote code execution vulnerabilities in things like font and imaging processing (you know, like the 0day Adobe Type Manager exploit that came out last month), I'd say there's a huge risk if you're using Windows 7 for anything except strict HTPC duties. Forget about even browsing the web, because even Chrome and Firefox offload a lot of that stuff to the OS and have been exploitable in the past, and no firewall is going to save you either. A patch for the Adobe vulnerability for Windows 7 is only available for enterprises that have paid for extended support; nothing is available to a home user.

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jasonl wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:26 pm
A patch for the Adobe vulnerability for Windows 7 is only available for enterprises that have paid for extended support; nothing is available to a home user.
Except for 0patch
https://0patch.com/index.html

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jasonl wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:26 pm
Considering Microsoft's history of remote code execution vulnerabilities in things like font and imaging processing (you know, like the 0day Adobe Type Manager exploit that came out last month), I'd say there's a huge risk if you're using Windows 7 for anything except strict HTPC duties. Forget about even browsing the web, because even Chrome and Firefox offload a lot of that stuff to the OS and have been exploitable in the past, and no firewall is going to save you either. A patch for the Adobe vulnerability for Windows 7 is only available for enterprises that have paid for extended support; nothing is available to a home user.
If you're talking about browsing/streaming from sketchy internet sites, that's high-risk activity regardless of OS. But for most Win7 HTPC users, there wasn't really a dramatic change in risk in January 2020.

That said, the "reward" side of the equation is worth consideration for all remaining Win7 users. WMC isn't all that special or versatile in the 2020 media landscape. For me, I was already considering moving on from it, and a hardware failure was enough to push me away (I didn't want to invest any more in it).

So if Win7 WMC still works for someone, I wouldn't tell them to rush to upgrade. But they should be aware of options!

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tonywagner wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 12:51 pm
WMC isn't all that special or versatile in the 2020 media landscape.
Those of us with DRM channels think WMC is very special.

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Ken.F wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:07 pm
Those of us with DRM channels think WMC is very special.
Yup! And you're exactly the crowd that I wouldn't urge to move away from WMC if it works for you.

Although in the 2020 media landscape, one should question the need for any cable TV package.

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tonywagner wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:13 pm
Although in the 2020 media landscape, one should question the need for any cable TV package.
Sports.

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Re: Windows 7 x64

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Ken.F wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:18 pm
Sports.
Well, no sports right now. :)

But sports aren't DRM, and they are generally available from some streaming providers as well as cable (without long-term contracts, so one can subscribe for a season as needed).

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