New UI and mouse scroll wheel

Discussion of the new user interface for the HDHomeRun app.
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New UI and mouse scroll wheel

Postby Jpsd1 » Sun May 05, 2019 11:33 am

The mouse scroll wheel no longer works for +10 fast forward and -10 rewind when utilizing new UI and Win 10 app.

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Re: New UI and mouse scroll wheel

Postby nickk » Mon May 06, 2019 7:47 am

The mouse scroll wheel is not intended to invoke 10m skip forward/back. Looks like you found a bug in the old UI.

We will discuss internally.

Nick

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Re: New UI and mouse scroll wheel

Postby JoelsPC » Mon May 06, 2019 8:36 am

I'm not seeing that behavior in my (old UI) windows 10 app (20190205 (1.1.2720.0)). Rolling the mouse wheel opens the guide and scrolls up and down accordingly. Maybe I have a different version? -Joel

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Re: New UI and mouse scroll wheel

Postby signcarver » Mon May 06, 2019 8:56 am

Jpsd1 may need to describe what was being used a bit better... I had never heard of such behavior but I suspect that it was using a scroll wheel left/right as some such things do a triple press or such that may be interpreted as a long press or perhaps it was something unique while watching recorded content.

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Re: New UI and mouse scroll wheel

Postby ACraigo » Mon May 06, 2019 9:41 am

The mouse scroll wheel is not intended to invoke 10m skip forward/back. Looks like you found a bug in the old UI.

We will discuss internally.

Nick
The standard, base level FF/RW skip is 30 seconds forward and 10 seconds back - in every other part of the known universe - so you may want to discuss that internally. Without any type of video preview thumbnail it's a shot in the dark, so it may be advisable to do what everybody else does so a 'user' might know what to expect when initiating a single press skip. How you do that on a game controller is a mystery, but that too should probably happen in the same way it happens everywhere else... if that's possible.

... and...

In all my travels the only place the mouse wheel does anything as far as movement forward or back is in VideoReDo (via a personalized setting) and there's probably a dam good reason for that... as it would be annoying as all git out. lol

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Re: New UI and mouse scroll wheel

Postby signcarver » Mon May 06, 2019 10:39 am

what was being described was the "long" press behavior for more rapidly moving through content, not your typical forward/back and is why I thought it was possibly a mouse whose scroll wheel also goes left/right... I always thought "the" standard for back was 7 seconds not 10

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Re: New UI and mouse scroll wheel

Postby nickk » Mon May 06, 2019 11:02 am

The HDHomeRun app does 30s forward (approximate) and 10s back (approximate).

Nick

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Re: New UI and mouse scroll wheel

Postby jasonl » Mon May 06, 2019 12:03 pm

I just tested my Logitech mouse which has left/right scroll by tilting the wheel and it did not skip ahead/back on the old UI. Wondering if Jpsd1 remapped those actions somehow.

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Re: New UI and mouse scroll wheel

Postby Jpsd1 » Mon May 06, 2019 12:28 pm

I must be the only one that ever used this feature. Using any mouse on any of my Win 10 computers utilizing Win 10 app version number 2019 02.

Start a recorded program. Once the program starts, without utilizing any other mouse clicks, scroll the mouse up moves the program 10 minutes forward, scroll the mouse down moves it 10 minutes back.

This feature has been working on the Win 10 app as long as I can remember.

I haven't programmed any keys or changed anything on any of my computers or mice.

I know I must be the only mouse only user there is in the modern world, but it has worked for me for 5 years and I really like not having to look down at a remote to control what is essentially a computer screen.

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Re: New UI and mouse scroll wheel

Postby Beerman » Mon May 06, 2019 12:59 pm

I must be the only one that ever used this feature. Using any mouse on any of my Win 10 computers utilizing Win 10 app version number 2019 02.

Start a recorded program. Once the program starts, without utilizing any other mouse clicks, scroll the mouse up moves the program 10 minutes forward, scroll the mouse down moves it 10 minutes back.

This feature has been working on the Win 10 app as long as I can remember.

I haven't programmed any keys or changed anything on any of my computers or mice.

I know I must be the only mouse only user there is in the modern world, but it has worked for me for 5 years and I really like not having to look down at a remote to control what is essentially a computer screen.
This feature worked for me as well in W10 until the New UI is used. I can stop the New UI and still use the mouse wheel to quickly move back and forth.

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Re: New UI and mouse scroll wheel

Postby JoelsPC » Mon May 06, 2019 2:10 pm

Ahh, I see now what you mean after you have clarified your statement. I also can scroll forward/backwards on a *recorded* show (didn't know that). I thought you were talking about the live TV buffer. I can confirm indeed the mouse wheel scrolls recorded tv in the *old* ui, not the *new* ui. -Joel

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Re: New UI and mouse scroll wheel

Postby Jpsd1 » Mon May 06, 2019 3:15 pm

Ahh, I see now what you mean after you have clarified your statement. I also can scroll forward/backwards on a *recorded* show (didn't know that). I thought you were talking about the live TV buffer. I can confirm indeed the mouse wheel scrolls recorded tv in the *old* ui, not the *new* ui. -Joel
This feature worked for me as well in W10 until the New UI is used. I can stop the New UI and still use the mouse wheel to quickly move back and forth.
Thanks to Beerman and Joel I was beginning to doubt what I was seeing. My bad for failing to mention that it only worked on recorded content without the user controls showing.

Wonder if Nick, Jason and signcarver were able to reproduce +10 / -10 given the additional information? It was actually a nice feature that allowed me to rapidly move through a recorded baseball game when my team was down by 10 runs. Since it appears that most folks didn't even know it existed I guess it won't be high on the list of things to fix.

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Re: New UI and mouse scroll wheel

Postby signcarver » Mon May 06, 2019 3:49 pm

That's why i mentioned "or perhaps it was something unique while watching recorded content" as i didn't think the response before that was taking that into consideration (i'm away from tuners this week as i was asked to work an additional week on something so couldn't confirm one way or another).

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Re: New UI and mouse scroll wheel

Postby jasonl » Mon May 06, 2019 4:43 pm

OK, in that specific combination I see it as well, it's doing the +10/-10 minute skips, as you would get by pressing up or down on a remote, not the +30/-10 that left/right do.

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Re: New UI and mouse scroll wheel

Postby Jpsd1 » Sun May 12, 2019 9:29 am

Hey Jason,

Now that you have seen it, is it something that can eventually be included in the new UI?


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