Studios Sue Omniverse in TV Streaming Crackdown

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Studios Sue Omniverse in TV Streaming Crackdown

Postby Noah0504 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:46 am

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/studios- ... 28800.html

There's also an article on Cord Cutters News, but that site is often a mess, so I posted the one from Yahoo! Finance.

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Re: Studios Sue Omniverse in TV Streaming Crackdown

Postby spencer777 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:59 am

Ouch, At least we still have OTA. Thread deleted in 3.2. 1.

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Re: Studios Sue Omniverse in TV Streaming Crackdown

Postby jasonmcroy » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:05 am

Wow. That is not good.

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Re: Studios Sue Omniverse in TV Streaming Crackdown

Postby NYPlayer » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:25 am

Looks bad … they could go belly up.

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Re: Studios Sue Omniverse in TV Streaming Crackdown

Postby Sammy2 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:33 am

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... verse.html

At present, SiliconDust is not a named Defendent and there's no "John Does" or "et al's"..

I'd like to see Omniverse' response in which they would likely present documentation that they have the rights to re-transmit the streams or fold if they don't.

Going forward, it would still be nice if SiliconDust could procure a different provider, even at a bit higher cost so we can still record locally.

Firing up my Emby DVR now to record away on these "Cable" Channels!

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Re: Studios Sue Omniverse in TV Streaming Crackdown

Postby Sammy2 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:38 am

For now SiliconDust still shows the service availability but a quick gander doesn't show "Powered by Omniverse" (that I can see).

https://www.silicondust.com/premium-tv/

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Re: Studios Sue Omniverse in TV Streaming Crackdown

Postby NYPlayer » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:41 am

For now SiliconDust still shows the service availability but a quick gander doesn't show "Powered by Omniverse" (that I can see).

https://www.silicondust.com/premium-tv/
Small Print top of page.

Streaming in cooperation with Omniverse One World Television, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

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Re: Studios Sue Omniverse in TV Streaming Crackdown

Postby Sammy2 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:48 am

For now SiliconDust still shows the service availability but a quick gander doesn't show "Powered by Omniverse" (that I can see).

https://www.silicondust.com/premium-tv/
Small Print top of page.

Streaming in cooperation with Omniverse One World Television, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Thank you.

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Re: Studios Sue Omniverse in TV Streaming Crackdown

Postby Noah0504 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:50 am

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... verse.html

At present, SiliconDust is not a named Defendent and there's no "John Does" or "et al's"..

I'd like to see Omniverse' response in which they would likely present documentation that they have the rights to re-transmit the streams or fold if they don't.

Going forward, it would still be nice if SiliconDust could procure a different provider, even at a bit higher cost so we can still record locally.

Firing up my Emby DVR now to record away on these "Cable" Channels!
Not a defendant, but their service is mentioned in detail in the lawsuit. This probably won't end well for anyone. Especially with this little tidbit:
Defendants apparently misrepresent to these downstream services that Omniverse has authority to “license” copyrighted motion picture and television programming content, including Plaintiffs’ Copyrighted Works. Omniverse has no such sub-licensing rights, and thus cannot authorize the downstream services to publicly perform Plaintiffs’ Copyrighted Works to their retail customers.

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Re: Studios Sue Omniverse in TV Streaming Crackdown

Postby Sammy2 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:07 am

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... verse.html

At present, SiliconDust is not a named Defendent and there's no "John Does" or "et al's"..

I'd like to see Omniverse' response in which they would likely present documentation that they have the rights to re-transmit the streams or fold if they don't.

Going forward, it would still be nice if SiliconDust could procure a different provider, even at a bit higher cost so we can still record locally.

Firing up my Emby DVR now to record away on these "Cable" Channels!
Not a defendant, but their service is mentioned in detail in the lawsuit. This probably won't end well for anyone. Especially with this little tidbit:
Defendants apparently misrepresent to these downstream services that Omniverse has authority to “license” copyrighted motion picture and television programming content, including Plaintiffs’ Copyrighted Works. Omniverse has no such sub-licensing rights, and thus cannot authorize the downstream services to publicly perform Plaintiffs’ Copyrighted Works to their retail customers.
Nevertheless, the Plaintiffs would have to petition the court to add SiliconDust as Defendants (in my understanding).

Additionally, Plaintiffs can say what they want in the filing. It doesn't have to be true. It seems to me a company like SiliconDust would vet Omniverse' contract to provide the service before putting their whole operation at risk. They've been a very legit player with the Prime and getting CableLabs approval. I can't wait to see the response to the lawsuit because at that time we will finally get to see Omniverse' rights to re-transmit this content (if it exists).

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Re: Studios Sue Omniverse in TV Streaming Crackdown

Postby spencer777 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:50 am

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... verse.html

At present, SiliconDust is not a named Defendent and there's no "John Does" or "et al's"..

I'd like to see Omniverse' response in which they would likely present documentation that they have the rights to re-transmit the streams or fold if they don't.

Going forward, it would still be nice if SiliconDust could procure a different provider, even at a bit higher cost so we can still record locally.

Firing up my Emby DVR now to record away on these "Cable" Channels!
Not a defendant, but their service is mentioned in detail in the lawsuit. This probably won't end well for anyone. Especially with this little tidbit:
Defendants apparently misrepresent to these downstream services that Omniverse has authority to “license” copyrighted motion picture and television programming content, including Plaintiffs’ Copyrighted Works. Omniverse has no such sub-licensing rights, and thus cannot authorize the downstream services to publicly perform Plaintiffs’ Copyrighted Works to their retail customers.
Nevertheless, the Plaintiffs would have to petition the court to add SiliconDust as Defendants (in my understanding).

Additionally, Plaintiffs can say what they want in the filing. It doesn't have to be true. It seems to me a company like SiliconDust would vet Omniverse' contract to provide the service before putting their whole operation at risk. They've been a very legit player with the Prime and getting CableLabs approval. I can't wait to see the response to the lawsuit because at that time we will finally get to see Omniverse' rights to re-transmit this content (if it exists).
The key to me is are the Networks taking payments from Omniverse. To me that validates the service.

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Re: Studios Sue Omniverse in TV Streaming Crackdown

Postby ctalbot » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:28 am

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... verse.html

At present, SiliconDust is not a named Defendent and there's no "John Does" or "et al's"..
They are mentioned though in the lawsuit. Just look at Items 48-53 https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume ... iverse.pdf

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Re: Studios Sue Omniverse in TV Streaming Crackdown

Postby NYPlayer » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:47 am

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... verse.html

At present, SiliconDust is not a named Defendent and there's no "John Does" or "et al's"..
They are mentioned though in the lawsuit. Just look at Items 48-53 https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume ... iverse.pdf
Wow I should have read it all … they also say that Silicondust is not licensed.

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Re: Studios Sue Omniverse in TV Streaming Crackdown

Postby Beerman » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:54 am

The optics sure are not very good. I don't have a horse in this race but it looks very concerning to my eyes.

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Re: Studios Sue Omniverse in TV Streaming Crackdown

Postby jseymour » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:10 am

The optics sure are not very good.
The optics have never been very good, in my eyes. When the first issue came up with a disappearing feed (Hallmark, was it not?), I took a quick look at how this whole thing worked and suspected the writing was on the wall.

I would really like to see efforts like SD's PTV succeed, but, with the Balkanization of streaming TV (e.g.: Disney/Netflix), I simply don't see it happening.


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