Best streaming hardware?

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Best streaming hardware?

Postby csyounger » Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:17 am

Hi. I would like to transition from using my PC to a streaming device connected to my TV. I was disappointed to see that Roku is not supported/can't handle the Premium service. I am OK to get another device so I'm asking for advice and recommendations for best compatibility, performance, and features. Thanks in advance!

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Re: Best streaming hardware?

Postby ctalbot » Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:20 am

How much do you want to spend? Nvidia shield is the best if you're willing to pay for the premium. There are some deals going on right now. For example, here's the shield with game controller bundle for $133 bucks: https://slickdeals.net/f/12450235-nvidi ... SiteSearch

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Re: Best streaming hardware?

Postby ycavan » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:17 pm

We mainly use Android TV tv's, but for our older ones, we use Amazon Fire sticks.

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Re: Best streaming hardware?

Postby spencer777 » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:21 pm

If money was no object, I would get Xbox s

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Re: Best streaming hardware?

Postby tpm » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:23 pm

We mainly use Android TV tv's, but for our older ones, we use Amazon Fire sticks.
Worth noting that Amazon Fire Sticks are also technically Android TV, but with a different marketplace.

Despite not being a big Amazon fan, I picked up two Fire Stick 4K's this year. The reasons:

1. You can use a USB dongle to add a USB ethernet adapter for like 10 bucks. Much nicer than wifi.
2. The brand new Fire TV devices that support their DVR also can play MPEG2. So you can actually play antenna (ATSC) HDTV at full quality over ethernet.
3. They actually have the HDHomeRun app, which Roku does not due to various limitations.

I'm not 100% thrilled with them, but Amazon has improved the stick enough that I'm trying it out.

The Fire Stick does not natively support DTS audio tracks. It will convert them to Dolby Digital. If for any reason that's a concern, you could consider the Nvidia Shield instead.

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Re: Best streaming hardware?

Postby nickk » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:38 pm

I wouldn't recommend a FireTV 4k stick until Amazon fix the MPEG2 decoder bug that is causing problems with interlaced content.

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Re: Best streaming hardware?

Postby NYPlayer » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:41 pm

I wouldn't recommend a FireTV 4k stick until Amazon fix the MPEG2 decoder bug that is causing problems with interlaced content.
That is only for APPS that use Hardware decoding Channels DVR and EMBY play all MPEG2 just fine they use software decoding... maybe the HDHomerun should be able to toggle between hardware and software like the Channels DVR app.

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Re: Best streaming hardware?

Postby emveepee » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:52 pm

Since all the Premium channels are h264/aac and I believe all progressive ts streams, most Apple/Android players should handle Premium TV with ease assuming you install the right software. Kodi probably gives the most options for playback on many platforms.

That being said if you also want OTA lots of hardware players will have problems with 1080i broadcast. Many Amazon devices don't do this well (still suprised that people recommend it) My new FireTV 4k seems to deinterlace mpeg-2 (not sure about the earlier post on that) but it does not deinterlace h264 from my Extend so it looks terrible.

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Re: Best streaming hardware?

Postby tpm » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:30 pm

I wouldn't recommend a FireTV 4k stick until Amazon fix the MPEG2 decoder bug that is causing problems with interlaced content.
Do you get any internal word about that? Are they working on it?

For some reason, I'm not running into that bug.

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Re: Best streaming hardware?

Postby rpcameron » Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:32 pm

We mainly use Android TV tv's, but for our older ones, we use Amazon Fire sticks.
Worth noting that Amazon Fire Sticks are also technically Android TV, but with a different marketplace.

Despite not being a big Amazon fan, I picked up two Fire Stick 4K's this year. The reasons:

1. You can use a USB dongle to add a USB ethernet adapter for like 10 bucks. Much nicer than wifi.
2. The brand new Fire TV devices that support their DVR also can play MPEG2. So you can actually play antenna (ATSC) HDTV at full quality over ethernet.
3. They actually have the HDHomeRun app, which Roku does not due to various limitations.

I'm not 100% thrilled with them, but Amazon has improved the stick enough that I'm trying it out.

The Fire Stick does not natively support DTS audio tracks. It will convert them to Dolby Digital. If for any reason that's a concern, you could consider the Nvidia Shield instead.
Amazon's FireOS is based on a heavily patched/modified version of Android 5.0. For comparison, the current release of Android (Pie) is 9.0. Also, FireOS is based on Android; Android TV is slightly different. Comparing Android and Fire devices is the same as equating Safari with Chrome: they share a common point in the past, but they've diverged quite a bit to reach their current states.

Also of note, Fire devices can pass the audio through to your TV or receiver, so if they can handle DTS (most can), then you don't need to worry about the DD conversion.

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Re: Best streaming hardware?

Postby jseymour » Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:40 pm

I wouldn't recommend a FireTV 4k stick until Amazon fix the MPEG2 decoder bug that is causing problems with interlaced content.
That is only for APPS that use Hardware decoding Channels DVR and EMBY play all MPEG2 just fine they use software decoding... maybe the HDHomerun should be able to toggle between hardware and software like the Channels DVR app.
Somebody over on the Channels forum said he received updates for his 4K sticks and his initial impression is it may have fixed the problems with it.

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Re: Best streaming hardware?

Postby emveepee » Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:55 pm

Also of note, Fire devices can pass the audio through to your TV or receiver, so if they can handle DTS (most can), then you don't need to worry about the DD conversion.
Since this thread is about the Premium Channels this is not too relevant since most devices can't accept AAC pass through. If and when Silicon Dust add 5:1 support this might become more of an issue. Two channel output is probably the weakest link the the current offering assuming things continue to stabilize.

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Re: Best streaming hardware?

Postby NYPlayer » Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:24 pm

I wouldn't recommend a FireTV 4k stick until Amazon fix the MPEG2 decoder bug that is causing problems with interlaced content.
That is only for APPS that use Hardware decoding Channels DVR and EMBY play all MPEG2 just fine they use software decoding... maybe the HDHomerun should be able to toggle between hardware and software like the Channels DVR app.
Somebody over on the Channels forum said he received updates for his 4K sticks and his initial impression is it may have fixed the problems with it.
Yep they fixed hardware decoding MPEG2 with the latest update.

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Re: Best streaming hardware?

Postby jseymour » Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:26 pm


That is only for APPS that use Hardware decoding Channels DVR and EMBY play all MPEG2 just fine they use software decoding... maybe the HDHomerun should be able to toggle between hardware and software like the Channels DVR app.
Somebody over on the Channels forum said he received updates for his 4K sticks and his initial impression is it may have fixed the problems with it.
Yep they fixed hardware decoding MPEG2 with the latest update.
If that's the case, then perhaps I'll pick one up if they're still on sale.

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Re: Best streaming hardware?

Postby NYPlayer » Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:37 pm


Somebody over on the Channels forum said he received updates for his 4K sticks and his initial impression is it may have fixed the problems with it.
Yep they fixed hardware decoding MPEG2 with the latest update.
If that's the case, then perhaps I'll pick one up if they're still on sale.
I find the Picture Quality and sound better than the Shield. IMHOP


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