DVR Scheduling: Identifying Protected Content

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bigfan99
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DVR Scheduling: Identifying Protected Content

Post by bigfan99 » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:21 am

Given that DRM-protected content cannot currently be recorded, how do you avoid accidentally scheduling a recording of a protected program or channel? In my initial experimentation with the Windows 10 client I was not able to see how DRM-protected content is identified to the user when scheduling a recording task.

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Re: DVR Scheduling: Identifying Protected Content

Post by signcarver » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:37 am

You generally don't though there may be some screens that indicate channel.

The premise of the dvr is to go ahead and set it then when it can record it, it will. At least now the engine doesn't actually record it.

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Re: DVR Scheduling: Identifying Protected Content

Post by EddieP » Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:45 am

signcarver wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:37 am
You generally don't though there may be some screens that indicate channel.

The premise of the dvr is to go ahead and set it then when it can record it, it will. At least now the engine doesn't actually record it.
What happens if you set a movie to be recorded but it is also on a DRM channel which airs earlier than the non DRM one ... what will happen ?

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Re: DVR Scheduling: Identifying Protected Content

Post by signcarver » Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:59 am

Currently with the newer engines (which are also required to view live) DRM won't record at all so as long as you didn't just set up a one off, things would work once it is actually on a channel it can record from.

Earlier versions of the DVR engine, which won't currently work with the app for live viewing of DRM content (so if you can view live DRM chances are you are on a modern engine) would record such in an unusable file and would have the issue you are concerned about.

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Re: DVR Scheduling: Identifying Protected Content

Post by bigfan99 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:35 am

signcarver wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:37 am
You generally don't though there may be some screens that indicate channel.

The premise of the dvr is to go ahead and set it then when it can record it, it will. At least now the engine doesn't actually record it.
Not very helpful (i.e., hardly an elegant piece of software engineering). As you are describing it the record feature is "best effort" and there are zero effort to notify the user when a record request will likely fail. I take your point that the earlier versions would actually record the unviewable content.

Sure you can get a list of the DRM protected channels through the Channel Lineup of the HDHomeRun Prime tuner, but clunky does not cover this (cheat sheet) approach.

Naturally, adding the ability to record DRM-protected channels would make this pain point go away. :-)

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Re: DVR Scheduling: Identifying Protected Content

Post by NedS » Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:26 pm

It really hasn't been an issue in the real world, because the same program typically doesn't play on two different channels (one DRM and one not) at the exact same time. The DVR will attempt to record the two different recording times, so the DRM channel won't prevent it from recording on the non-DRM channel.

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Re: DVR Scheduling: Identifying Protected Content

Post by bigfan99 » Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:03 am

NedS wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:26 pm
It really hasn't been an issue in the real world, because the same program typically doesn't play on two different channels (one DRM and one not) at the exact same time. The DVR will attempt to record the two different recording times, so the DRM channel won't prevent it from recording on the non-DRM channel.
Yes but the original question is very much are "real world" issue. As noted, the fix is to enable the recording of DRM-protected content (makes the issue of not identifying DRM-content upon task scheduling moot).

--Rob

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