Notification when out of HD Space

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Notification when out of HD Space

Post by jbahlman@gmail.com » Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:35 am

Can i request that there is some kind of notification when you are running low on HD space? Maybe under a certain percent? The logs clearly show how much space is left. I had to go out of town for work and stuff started pilling up. My wife could have told me if it notified in the app that space is low. I didn't realize i was that close to being out of space and when i got back and fired up the app, it said no dvr configured. Apparently when it fill up the recording service stops working all together. i had to delete some stuff and reboot for the dvr to work again. Not sure why i had to reboot, i have the wdmycloud and it said the service was running, but the apps all said it was not configured. After the reboot all was normal.

This is what showed in my log:

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20190417-12:20:11 Status: Recording: 106.7 The Fan's Sports Junkies 20160906 [20190417-1000] from 13263ED4 (16164MB)
20190417-12:21:03 Recording: starting new file Live channel 507 f44f1d78
20190417-12:21:03 Recording: sending request to 13263ED4 at 192.168.1.6 for Live channel 507 f44f1d78
20190417-12:21:03 Recording: Live channel 507 f44f1d78 not starting due to limited disk space
20190417-12:21:03 Playback: Live channel 507 failed to start: 810 DVR Full

so it looks like it filled up around 12pm gmt yesterday so 7 or 8am east coast time. i got home at 8pm and nothing else was in the log file until 4/18 12:26am gmt when i rebooted the mycloud.

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Re: Notification when out of HD Space

Post by nateb » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:25 am

Totally agree. We've actually been discussing this exact issue recently. Right now we're wondering if report in my.hdhomerun.com is enough. There's no real place to put it in the app, but would it be even more useful there?

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Re: Notification when out of HD Space

Post by signcarver » Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:36 am

That's the way I feel... in the app is "useless" (though checking how much is available might be) as typically such issues occur when no one is even near the app.

On most platforms I would suggest something to email the user if disk space gets low... I am not aware of an android utility to do such if DVR is on "shield" but one might exist.

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Re: Notification when out of HD Space

Post by NYPlayer » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:25 am

signcarver wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:36 am
That's the way I feel... in the app is "useless" (though checking how much is available might be) as typically such issues occur when no one is even near the app.

On most platforms I would suggest something to email the user if disk space gets low... I am not aware of an android utility to do such if DVR is on "shield" but one might exist.
I do that with my Synology I set a %of freespace and I have it text me and email me. I did this also when I was using DVR on windows … used a program called SMTPMailSender.

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Re: Notification when out of HD Space

Post by rpcameron » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:46 am

If you're running the record engine on a Linux machine (or NAS), you can easily set up a cronjob to regularly check disk space and notify you once a threshold is reached.

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Re: Notification when out of HD Space

Post by GetMatt » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:29 pm

nateb wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:25 am
Totally agree. We've actually been discussing this exact issue recently. Right now we're wondering if report in my.hdhomerun.com is enough. There's no real place to put it in the app, but would it be even more useful there?
It could be as simple as adding a storage capacity bar on the bottom of the settings page. Or at the top of the menu next to the clock.

To me my.hdhomerun.com is more for diagnosing an issue, initial setup and updates. Other than that most everything should be handled in the app.

On the note of the settings page I think it would be nice to add things like default record settings in the settings menu as well (padding, all/current season, etc)

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Re: Notification when out of HD Space

Post by JeffRand » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:51 pm

I like the way WMC handles it. When looking at the grid guide, you see the usual red dots showing which programs will record. When you are low on space, it puts an exclamation point in the red dot, for programs that won't record in the future due to disk space. You can also view as a list all of the upcoming scheduled recordings showing which will have room and which will not. So, you have plenty of time to make space.

Of course low disk space could also be managed easier if there were options to automatically delete under the various conditions, such as after you have watched the program, keep X number of episodes, or until space is needed, etc.

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Re: Notification when out of HD Space

Post by NYPlayer » Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:09 pm

GetMatt wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:29 pm
nateb wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:25 am
Totally agree. We've actually been discussing this exact issue recently. Right now we're wondering if report in my.hdhomerun.com is enough. There's no real place to put it in the app, but would it be even more useful there?
It could be as simple as adding a storage capacity bar on the bottom of the settings page. Or at the top of the menu next to the clock.

To me my.hdhomerun.com is more for diagnosing an issue, initial setup and updates. Other than that most everything should be handled in the app.

On the note of the settings page I think it would be nice to add things like default record settings in the settings menu as well (padding, all/current season, etc)
I barley look at my.hdhomerun.com page. Something on the app would be more accessible and informative.

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Re: Notification when out of HD Space

Post by msuckow » Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:45 pm

NYPlayer wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:09 pm
I barley look at my.hdhomerun.com page. Something on the app would be more accessible and informative.
Agreed. my.hdhomerun.com is not a destination. I only go there to check for issues after the fact.

I think that adding an indicator in the app would make the most sense.
GetMatt wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:29 pm
It could be as simple as adding a storage capacity bar on the bottom of the settings page. Or at the top of the menu next to the clock.
Extra credit for adding an email notification system, but I imagine that this would be challenging across platforms

And, when we finally get a list of upcoming recordings, that would be another great place to display the low space indicator.
GetMatt wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:29 pm
I like the way WMC handles it. When looking at the grid guide, you see the usual red dots showing which programs will record. When you are low on space, it puts an exclamation point in the red dot, for programs that won't record in the future due to disk space. You can also view as a list all of the upcoming scheduled recordings showing which will have room and which will not. So, you have plenty of time to make space.

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Re: Notification when out of HD Space

Post by jbahlman@gmail.com » Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:21 pm

I would prefer in the app somewhere, but i would be fine with an email too. I wouldn't look at the myhdhomerun.com unless something was wrong.

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Re: Notification when out of HD Space

Post by grumpygramp » Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:26 pm

Maybe a status tab can be added to the app; you could put amount of disk space left on the new tab.

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Re: Notification when out of HD Space

Post by Bobstr » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:45 am

One thought on how to notify for low free space - Windows 10 has a notifications window, quite similar in concept to how android has notifications.

In Windows 10, notifications can appear for a short time in the lower right corner of the screen. Example: Win10 PC doing automatic backups as part of a Server essentials domain, I get a 'backup started' and 'backup completed' (or in case of an error, 'backup failed') popup. The small popup in the lower right corner of the screen goes away after a few seconds (and shows over live TV or recorded playback), but stays resident (until manually cleared) in the notifications (as witnessed by an icon in the right corner at the bottom of the screen on the taskbar. This also happens with new emails while using Microsoft Outlook, and lots of other programs. There seems to be a programable amount of time the popup lasts - the 'backup started' seems to stay on the screen for less time than a received email popup does.

In Android, most folks know how the notification section works - you get an entry and an icon in the notification section of the screen, and you have to manually clear it (or reboot the device) to make it go away.

In both there are ways to turn off or on these notifications for each application, so if you don't want to see them, you don't.

I don't know how hard it would be to program this, but since there's no real space in the UI without taking away screen real estate from other purposes, It may be an equal amount of work, or maybe even easier than changing the UI. This may work as a way to notify - particularly if there's a way to have the UI cause the popup every time you start the UI, or to not have it automatically go away unless you clear the popup manually.

Just a thought.

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