RED TV image with HDHR4 on W7 PC

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Jean-Max
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RED TV image with HDHR4 on W7 PC

Postby Jean-Max » Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:10 am

Hello,

I installed an HDHR4-2DT Connect device (Fw 20170930) connected to my local network and to my Digital Terrestrial Television antenna

On an Windows 10 64 PC :
I launched the W10 HDHomerun application from Microsoft Store
No problem to find HDHR4 and establish channel list,
Image is perfect, viewed on W10 HDhomerun application :)

On a second PC Windows 7 32 :
I installed the last Windows soft hdhomerun_windows_20171221.exe
During setup, no problem to find HDHR4 and establish channel list
But image PROBLEM with "HDHomerun view" :
The vertical channels menu is OK,
... but all TV channel images are black red, like with inverted colors :(
2 Examples: ([img] seems not functioning)
"http://jean-max.pagesperso-orange.fr/_P ... TURE_1.jpg"
"http://jean-max.pagesperso-orange.fr/_P ... TURE_2.jpg"

-> Is-it a video codec problem ?
NB: My video players like VLC and MPC work fine)
NB: I have already installed K-lite codec pack 1400 full on this W7 PC

-> Is-it a BDA driver problem ?
in the HDHomerun Setup :
"BDA compatibility mode" set on "Default" in the Configuration page
"BDA Driver Virtual Channel Table mode" set on "Auto" in the Advanced page

NB: no effect after " Repair/Reinstall Windows components" on the same HDHomerun Setup page

Thanks for your ideas, info and .. experiences :)

Jean-Max
Best regards from France
I apologize for my bad English, but school days ave very far away..

foxbat121
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Re: RED TV image with HDHR4 on W7 PC

Postby foxbat121 » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:05 am

Try uninstall and reinstall VLC. HDHR View will use 32-bit VLC for video decoding if one is found. But from what I read, it can be problematic with VLC installations. BDA drivers are for WMC which I'd suggest you use on Win7 for TV watching. The Win7 version of HDHR view is very different than WIn10 version and will never be able to use the DVR feature.

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Re: RED TV image with HDHR4 on W7 PC

Postby Jean-Max » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:33 pm

Thanks, foxbat121 for your idea !

I uninstalled VLC 32 and reinstall it (Last VLC 3.01 Windows 32) :
HDHomerun View: : Same Black Red image problem :(

-> Have-I to install an older VLC 32 version ?

You talk about Windows Media Player, so, I made this test :

-(1)- I uninstalled Klite codec pack, MPCHC and VLC
(so WMP becomes the only video player on this PC)
-(2)- HDHomerun Config Gui : I find a channel with good % signal
-(3)- I click on [View] : TV Image is perfect in WMP :)
-(4)- But... in HDHomerun View : no TV mage at all :(
(Is-it because VLC is uninstalled ?)

-> How can I set WMP as default player in HDHomerun View ?

Thanks for your ideas, info and ... experiences :)

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Re: RED TV image with HDHR4 on W7 PC

Postby foxbat121 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:47 pm

WMC = Windows Media Center, not WMP. Win7 WMC is still the best platform for TV viewing and DVR.

I believe 32-bit VLC is now required for HDHR view.

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Re: RED TV image with HDHR4 on W7 PC

Postby Jean-Max » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:13 am

I believe 32-bit VLC is now required for HDHR view.
Not so sure : have a look to my 2 following tests

Test 1:
VLC 32 installed : Black Red TV image in HDHR view.
VLC 32 not installed : No TV image at all in HDHR view

Test2:
HDHR config gui / Tuner 0 / choose an channel with good % signal
Click on it : / View /
If VLC is installed on PC -> VLC window opens and Black screen :(
If VLC is absent -> Windows Media Player window opens and TV image is perfect :)

So how to use HDHR view in W7 ?
What could be the good Video player used by HDHR view ?

Thanks for Windows Media Center solution but before using it on this W7 PC, I would try to use, if possible, the original HDHR view ..

Nobody from Silicondust walking around this forum ?

Thanks for any idea, info and .. experiences :)

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Re: RED TV image with HDHR4 on W7 PC

Postby foxbat121 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:07 am

Sounds like your VLC can't properly display the TV video. Try a different video render in the VLC settings.

The HDHR View app on Win7 is a legacy app that is not the same thing as Win10 App. WMC is a better TV viewing platform on Win7.

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Re: RED TV image with HDHR4 on W7 PC

Postby GGRussell » Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:18 am

Have you tried KODI with one of the available HDHomeRun plug ins? There one 'official' plug in and several others created by users.

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Re: RED TV image with HDHR4 on W7 PC

Postby jasonl » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:29 pm

The Windows 7 app uses the decoders from VLC (when available) to decode the video, then uses the system's video card to do some modification to the video and draw it on the screen. If the colors are coming out wrong, that usually means the drivers are not handling that conversion correctly. Try a different video card driver version.

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Re: RED TV image with HDHR4 on W7 PC

Postby Jean-Max » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:57 am

Have you tried KODI with one of the available HDHomeRun plug ins? There one 'official' plug in and several others created by users.
Thanks for the KODI idea :)

On the W7 PC, I installed KODI and HDhomerun as PVR client :
Result : Perfect TV image inside KODI, with my HDHR4 :)

OK, it runs.., but I am always looking for a single light TV player like HDHR View
Why ? :
This W7 PC is a laptop with a not a so large SSD as unique disk and KODI is an perfect Media Player but .. quite big and not useful on this Laptop

to follow..

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Re: RED TV image with HDHR4 on W7 PC

Postby Jean-Max » Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:59 am

....Try a different video card driver version.
My W7 Sony Vaio FZ21Z Laptop has on its MB, an Nvidia Geforce 8600M GS Chip
The installed driver is old and came from Nvidia : Updating this driver from W7 says : "best driver installed"

The only more recent Nvidia drv compatible with Geforce 8600M GS (Notebooks) and W7 32 is refused for Sony Vaio Notebooks
and.. on Sony Vaio assistance, no more recent drv that mine..

First conclusion: No video drv change possible..

I will have a look on VLC Video renderer choices ..

To follow..

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Re: RED TV image with HDHR4 on W7 PC

Postby foxbat121 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:13 am

Sony is out of PC business. So there will not be any updates. It is possible to install generic NVidia driver but probably not easily.

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Re: RED TV image with HDHR4 on W7 PC

Postby Jean-Max » Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:23 am

Sounds like your VLC can't properly display the TV video. Try a different video render in the VLC settings.
On VLC / Tools / Preferences / Video / Output / :
I tried all the choices :
Automatic
Video output :Direct3D , DirectX , Direct2D, Open GL , Windows GDI , YUV

-> No success : TV image is always Black red (Audio is OK)

:roll:

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Re: RED TV image with HDHR4 on W7 PC

Postby Jean-Max » Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:39 am

Hello

Following my last test, VLC works fine on my W7 Laptop to display TV image from HDHR4:

You can make the same experience as me:

-(1)- Set VLC as default video player for TS and MPG Videos
-(2)- Launch hdhomerun_config_gui.exe present in /Program files/Silicondust/HDHomerun/ folder
-(3)- Change channel number from 0 to the first channel number witch transform [View] button from grayed to active
-(4)- Click on [View] button

== RESULT => Perfect TV image in a VLC window !

Conclusion : No problem to see TV image from HDHR4, with :
-(a)- VLC with its defaults setup
and
-(b)- My video card and its actual driver on my W7 Laptop

So Question:
Why "HDHomerun View" is not OK with (a) + (b) ?

:roll:

PS : Perfect TV image channel on VLC, from HDHR4, on my W7 laptop, with the small freeware named "HdHomeRunVLCRemote"
If you want to test it, Gogol will easily find it for you

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Re: RED TV image with HDHR4 on W7 PC

Postby jasonl » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:13 pm

The app does some different things from just basic VLC in order to be able to draw the program guide and other user interface things on top of the video.

https://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/112598 this is a link to the last driver version from NVIDIA for that GPU, might be worth giving that a shot.

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Re: RED TV image with HDHR4 on W7 PC

Postby Jean-Max » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:26 am

The app does some different things from just basic VLC in order to be able to draw the program guide and other user interface things on top of the video.
https://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/112598 this is a link to the last driver version from NVIDIA for that GPU, might be worth giving that a shot.
Thanks, jasonl for your link
My W7 Laptop is 32bit so I tested the 32bit version of 342.01
https://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/112597

Problem:
My Serie F Sony Vaio FZ-21Z with Geforce 8600M-GS is not compatible:
"The following Sony VAIO notebooks are included in the Verde notebook program:
Sony VAIO F Series with NVIDIA GeForce 310M, GeForce GT 330M, GeForce GT 425M, GeForce GT 520M or GeForce GT 540M.
Other Sony VAIO notebooks are not included (please contact Sony for driver support)."


During install: incompatibility is confirmed:
http://jean-max.pagesperso-orange.fr/_P ... Vaio_FZ21Z

No chance..


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