Detected Channels after 20200907 Firmware

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bigfan99
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Detected Channels after 20200907 Firmware

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Hi,

My Prime and SERVIO both updated to firmware 20200907. I noticed the Channel Line-up in the HDHomeRun Prime lists far fewer channels than it did before (+300 => 155 detected channels). I am trying to figure out what has changed. It seems to be only showing the HD versions of the cable channels and not the SD versions, plus any channels that I do not have subscription for (e.g, HBO) are not in the Prime Channel List. I am fine with the latter (unsubscribed), but puzzled by the former (no SD channels).

Thanks!

--Rob

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Re: Detected Channels after 20200907 Firmware

Post by Ken.F »

bigfan99 wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:00 am
I am trying to figure out what has changed. It seems to be only showing the HD versions of the cable channels and not the SD versions, plus any channels that I do not have subscription for (e.g, HBO) are not in the Prime Channel List.
If you want to see if it thinks you are not subscribed to the SD channels add ?show=all to the end of the URL for your channel lineup. Any channels you are not subscribed to will be crossed out.

Code: Select all

<ip address>/lineup.html?show=all

bigfan99
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Re: Detected Channels after 20200907 Firmware

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Thanks for that command line. It shows the unsubscribed HD channels I would expect to see (e.g., HBO), although it is showing some channels that are subscribed (ESPN) as being unsubscribed (ESPN-2 is shown subscribed as expected).

Regarding the SD channels, they to not show in the Channel Lineup event when invoking the "show-all" option.

I will try resetting the Prime and running another channel scan.

--Rob

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Re: Detected Channels after 20200907 Firmware

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Resetting the HDHomeRun Prime and running the Channel Scan did recover ESPNH and two other HD channels that were incorrectly marked subscribed. All the SD channels remain missing.

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Re: Detected Channels after 20200907 Firmware

Post by signcarver »

There are many things that can cause such. Is it all the SD channels or the SD channels where there is an equivalent HD channel? First I believe in prior posts you mentioned Optimum. I do know that many areas of Optimum use SDV but traditionally only for Foreign channels and some Sports packages. I can't speak for optimum but the past year I have seen quite a few providers switch SD channels over to SDV . Another thing about optimum is that the often use a trick to make the HD channels show up with the SD numbers by providing a map that only provides one set of numbers to their STB... when they first did that, many had the issue you described and eventually they provided cablecards for use in customer provided equipment a different map. However it is possible that such channel map got pushed to your card. It is also possible that they decided to get rid of most if not all the SD channels to switch such bandwidth to other uses (typically internet)

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Re: Detected Channels after 20200907 Firmware

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Yes the provider is Optimum (Altice) and yes their STBs do some auto remapping so that all the SD channels with HD equivalents will automatically redirect to the HD version. Most of the HD channels are in the 700s (some in the upper 600s) channel IDs. That has been the case for many years,

Yes it seems following the firmware update all the SD-equivalents of the HD channels are gone (so not the end of the world that I have lost them on the Prime, but puzzled as to why). For instance my channel line-up no longer shows channel IDs 2-13 (the SD versions of the over-the-air DTV stations), instead only showing the HD equivalents at 702 - 713.

The apparent change in the available channel line-up occurred after the above firmware update. I am skeptical that Optimum changed anything (or it is a strange coincidence that they did at the same time I updated the Prime firmware).

SDV should have nothing to do with it as we never subscribed to any packages that where delivered via SDV and it seems unlikely they sudden moved 150 channels to SDV. (in which case I would expect there would be an up roar on the OOL forum on DSLReports)

--Rob

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Re: Detected Channels after 20200907 Firmware

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I upgraded Firmware yesterday. Before, upgrade my Cable channels were working fine. Now, it's just pixelation....Firmware 20200907...OTA channels are nice and smooth

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Re: Detected Channels after 20200907 Firmware

Post by emg60060 »

I also experienced some channel loss (Spectrum). Just unplug/replug the STB and rescan channels. I just assumed it has something to with the cable co.

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Re: Detected Channels after 20200907 Firmware

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It seems very unlikely that Spectrum and Optimum implemented simultaneous channel line-up changes, so I am going with the firmware as the cause. :-)

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Re: Detected Channels after 20200907 Firmware

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et161866 wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:32 am
I upgraded Firmware yesterday. Before, upgrade my Cable channels were working fine. Now, it's just pixelation....Firmware 20200907...OTA channels are nice and smooth
Have you tried to force a new channel line-up scan? ("Detect Channels" from http://hdhomerun.local/lineup.html). This might eliminate bad DRM channel markings as a cause.

--Rob

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