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Winterlight
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Import guide into WMC

Post by Winterlight » Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:56 pm

I am in the U.S and I do have a Silicon Dust subscription and I use the Win10 and Android app on most of devices. I have both the Cable and OTA devices and it does work great. However, I have one PC = Windows 8.1 PRO with Media Center that I want to keep using after MS kills guide support next week because it has a TEXT based guide to find future programing, and set recordings which is much easier to use for a quick recording. It also allows you to have favorite listings like a Cable DVR which is nice to use when there are so many available channels.

I went to download the EPG app to take over the guide and saw this
If you use SiliconDust HDHomeRun tuners and receive listings for their slice guide, you may be able to import that data into WMC without any additional cost. If you are subscribed to their $35USD/year DVR Service, you can receive up to 14 days of guide listings.
So how would I import my Silicon Dust guide into MC...or will it happen automatically? Thank you.

Winterlight
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Re: SOLVED Import guide into WMC

Post by Winterlight » Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:37 pm

With the help of EMC author I found a solution.

nstall EPG123 with the following components:

Client Files
HDHR2MXF for SiliconDust HDHR DVR Service

Follow the installation routine for EPG123. When it gets to Step 3, Part 1 it will automatically run the HDHR2MXF program, import it, and map the listings to your guide channels. When done, it will proceed to Step 3, Part 2. It is actually really quick and easy without having to configure lineups and channels like we do with Schedules Direct.

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Re: Import guide into WMC

Post by mmortal03 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:18 pm

Would this also work for their free, 24-hour slice listing information (that is, without paying for a DVR account with them?)

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Re: Import guide into WMC

Post by jasonl » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:34 pm

The guide data used by EPG123/HDHR2MXF is only available to DVR subscribers.

hotshot2k3
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Re: Import guide into WMC

Post by hotshot2k3 » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:02 pm

You can just use MCImportXMLTV with an xmltv file generated by zap2it

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Re: Import guide into WMC

Post by tommyinajar » Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:35 pm

Just found out I don't need schedule direct, but I'm having an issue of the cable card channels not importing to WMC-no data
Image any HELP?

https://i.imgur.com/GXxcaU3.png

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Re: Import guide into WMC

Post by mmortal03 » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:51 am

hotshot2k3 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:02 pm
You can just use MCImportXMLTV with an xmltv file generated by zap2it
Very interesting. I couldn't find a website for MCImportXMLTV. I guess I could find a download link for it elsewhere?

I also found something called zap2xml, from the same developer as mc2xml (I'm not familiar with either): http://zap2xml.awardspace.info/

The mc2xml page actually describes using it with zap2it, too, but I have no idea which would be better: http://mc2xml.awardspace.info/#zap2it

I also came across the following guide, but it may need updating: https://www.thegreenbutton.tv/wiki/Cust ... mentations

So, can an XMLTV file be directly imported into EPG123? If that's the case, what is the purpose of MCImportXMLTV? Is MCImportXMLTV like a barebones alternative to EPG123?

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Re: Import guide into WMC

Post by hotshot2k3 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:43 am

mmortal03 wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:51 am
hotshot2k3 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:02 pm
You can just use MCImportXMLTV with an xmltv file generated by zap2it
Very interesting. I couldn't find a website for MCImportXMLTV. I guess I could find a download link for it elsewhere?

I also found something called zap2xml, from the same developer as mc2xml (I'm not familiar with either): http://zap2xml.awardspace.info/

The mc2xml page actually describes using it with zap2it, too, but I have no idea which would be better: http://mc2xml.awardspace.info/#zap2it

I also came across the following guide, but it may need updating: https://www.thegreenbutton.tv/wiki/Cust ... mentations

So, can an XMLTV file be directly imported into EPG123? If that's the case, what is the purpose of MCImportXMLTV? Is MCImportXMLTV like a barebones alternative to EPG123?
Yes you generate an epg xml with zap2xml
Then use MCImportXMLTV to import it into WMC

There is no need for EPG123 and no need to pay for any EPG data

https://www.dropbox.com/s/49alfn6m9llse ... d.exe?dl=1

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Re: Import guide into WMC

Post by garyan2 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:59 pm

I had forgotten about MCImportXMLTV. Functional, but very limited and has some downfalls.

What it gives you:
A guide that has the program title, subtitle, and description
Limited categories
Series are based on the series title (typically okay, series recordings will work with caveat below)

What is doesn't give you:
No original air date means no New or Repeat
No cast & crew
No images
No movie or TV parental ratings
No generic tag so if something like a "To Be Announced" program finally gets announced, the guide will not update with the new information.
All programs have a unique ID which means the same program airing on 2 different channels or 2 different times are considered different programs.
All programs are considered part of a series to include movies
Series recordings will include all programs (new, repeat, and duplicate repeats)
No tags such as premiere, finale, language, reason for rating, SAP, CC, ... fluff

There is also a big risk in that if you add or remove a channel from the XMLTV file used, or they change order in the XMLTV file, then your guide listings will get all scrambled. You will have multiple, if not all your channels with the wrong listings.

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Re: Import guide into WMC

Post by mmortal03 » Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:37 am

garyan2, thanks for this side-by-side comparison. I also read that there's a method combining Zap2It and EPG Collector to do this, but I haven't tried it yet. And there's the completely off-line option using EPG Collector to get basic guide data by way of the TV signal metadata which seems pretty cool. I wonder if EPG Collector has all of the drawbacks of MCImportXMLTV.

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Re: Import guide into WMC

Post by garyan2 » Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:51 pm

I wouldn't use EPG Collector for converting an XMLTV to MXF file. I did some checking on that with results in this thread on TGB. It has the same risk of having to remap channels when there is a change in the lineup or XMLTV file.

If using EPG Collector, then getting guide data from the stream is the way to go. You won't get a lot of data, but you will have title, episode title, and description. Some channels may only be 24 hours, some a few days, and some not at all. I believe they are supposed to provide at least 24 hours, but folks are seeing less.

If you were to compare MCImportXMLTV and EPG Collector, they are pretty much the same in pluses and minuses.

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