It's as bad. I'm in a bit of a fringe area as well, using a Televes DATBOSS LR Mix Hi-VHF UHF Long Range Antenna in my attic. I get solid ATSC 1.0 & 3.0 reception w/HDHR, but poor with both with **** & *********.

BTW mods, why can't we talk about ****? Why the censorship?

Recently tried the ********* and **** boxes (latter is getting censored for whatever reason; [link removed by moderator]) ... they suck. Don't get me wrong, I'm getting impatient with DRM'd ATSC 3.0 channels being (at least) watchable with my HDHR Flex 4K, which is why I bought both ********* and **...